The Rich Roll Podcast

Fasting Compilation: Leading Experts On Water-Only Fasts, Fasting Mimicking Diets & The Optimal Fasting Window For Longevity

November 20, 2025

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  • Prolonged, medically supervised water-only fasting is considered a superior protocol for reversing acute or chronic lifestyle diseases compared to intermittent fasting protocols, though it carries a higher risk profile. 
  • Visceral fat behaves like a tumor, secreting inflammatory molecules, and water-only fasting preferentially mobilizes this harmful fat (e.g., 55% loss of visceral fat for a 20% total fat loss in a two-week fast). 
  • Time-restricted eating (TRE) between 12 to 13 hours of fasting daily is the safest and most universally recommended fasting window, as skipping breakfast (16-hour fasts) has been associated with increased mortality in some meta-analyses. 
  • Water-only fasting requires strict medical supervision, especially for individuals on medications that cannot be safely withdrawn or that become greatly potentiated during fasting, necessitating careful protocol adjustments or exclusion. 
  • Successful long-term fasting outcomes depend on the patient's willingness to adopt a healthy diet post-fast, as reverting to poor dietary patterns negates the benefits and can lead to blaming the fast itself. 
  • Dr. Alan Goldhamer's personal practice involves a daily 16-hour fast and an annual week-long water fast, emphasizing that the greatest challenge during the annual fast is the required slowing down and resting, not the physical symptoms. 

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Defining Fasting Types
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  • Key Takeaway: Fasting encompasses various protocols including intermittent fasting, time-restricted feeding, alternate day fasting, and the fasting-mimicking diet.
  • Summary: Fasting protocols range from time-restricted feeding (e.g., 11/13 or 12/12 hour windows) to more intensive methods like water-only fasting and the fasting-mimicking diet. The term ‘fasting’ can mean many different things depending on the specific protocol being referenced. Implementation of these dietary changes is often challenging even when the science is understood.
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Water-Only Fasting vs. FMD
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  • Key Takeaway: Water-only fasting is a medically supervised, complete abstinence protocol necessary for reversing specific acute or chronic diseases, unlike fasting-mimicking diets (FMDs) which are less intensive and require less supervision.
  • Summary: Dr. Goldhamer’s protocol involves therapeutic, medically supervised water-only fasting for periods ranging from five to 40 days, followed by a recovery period. FMDs, like Valter Longo’s program, involve limited nutrition and are safer for home use without aggressive medication withdrawal. However, prolonged water-only fasting achieves more profound reversal of specific illnesses than intermittent fasting or FMDs.
Determining Fasting Duration
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  • Key Takeaway: The duration of a water-only fast is determined case-by-case based on medical history, lab results, and the time required to normalize specific conditions like blood pressure or A1C levels.
  • Summary: Fasting length is estimated beforehand but adjusted based on patient response, aiming to reach optimal weight and normalize conditions like hypertension or Type 2 diabetes. The process is carefully monitored twice daily using labs and urinalysis to ensure safety and efficacy. The goal is to eliminate the need for medication by resolving the underlying dietary causes of the condition.
Visceral Fat and Disease
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  • Key Takeaway: Visceral fat, which accumulates around organs, acts like a tumor by producing inflammatory molecules (like IL-6 and TNF-alpha) linked to heart disease, diabetes, and autoimmune conditions.
  • Summary: Visceral fat is not just a cosmetic issue; it is hypermetabolic and drives chronic disease through inflammation. Fasting causes a preferential mobilization of visceral fat, with studies showing a 3:1 ratio of visceral fat loss to total fat loss over two weeks. This preferential mobilization suggests the body targets this harmful fat before other fat stores.
TRE: 12-Hour Window Consensus
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  • Key Takeaway: The 12-hour fasting/12-hour feeding window (12/12 TRE) is considered the safest, most predictable, and universally agreeable daily fasting protocol, supported by epidemiological data and centenarian habits.
  • Summary: Dr. Longo favors 12 hours of fasting daily, noting that no study shows this practice is unsafe or ineffective for preventing/treating diseases. Protocols like 16-hour fasts or alternate day fasting are deemed too demanding for the general population and may carry unknown long-term risks. The average person currently eats for about 15 hours daily, so a 12-hour window represents a significant, beneficial restriction.
Fasting Mimicking Diet (FMD) Details
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  • Key Takeaway: The FMD is a plant-based, low-calorie, low-sugar, low-protein diet designed to physiologically mimic the body’s response to water-only fasting, tested for various diseases.
  • Summary: The FMD was developed over 30 years and is tested using blood markers to ensure it elicits a fasting response equivalent to not eating at all. It is considered a realistic, less invasive alternative to prolonged fasting for the general population, often recommended three to four times per year. Different FMD protocols exist, tailored for specific conditions like diabetes or cancer, sometimes involving supplements or adjusted durations.
Eating Timing and Health Outcomes
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  • Key Takeaway: Eating the same calories in the evening versus the morning can lead to opposite metabolic outcomes, with evening meals causing weight gain and morning meals causing weight loss, highlighting the importance of chronobiology.
  • Summary: The body operates on daily cycles affecting temperature, hormones, and metabolism, meaning when you eat matters as much as what you eat. Studies show that consuming 2,000 calories at supper leads to weight gain, while the same calories at breakfast leads to weight loss. Early time-restricted feeding (eating earlier in the day) provides chronobiological benefits that skipping breakfast does not.
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  • Summary: The product is designed to be a simple, portable routine, especially useful when travel or holidays disrupt normal eating patterns. The NextGen formula includes five probiotic strains working with prebiotics to aid digestion, which is crucial when dietary routines are compromised. It offers a broad spectrum of vitamins, minerals, and antioxidants in four flavor options.
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Fasting and Medication Withdrawal
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  • Key Takeaway: Most medications are treating dietary issues, meaning that once a patient undergoes fasting and dietary change, the need for medication dramatically decreases or disappears, necessitating careful weaning.
  • Summary: Patients undergoing water-only fasting must typically wean off medications beforehand because the underlying dietary causes of conditions like hypertension or diabetes are being resolved. For example, patients can go from high blood pressure on five medications to normal blood pressure off medication. This process requires medical supervision to prevent crashing patients by reducing necessary drugs too slowly.
Fasting Mechanisms: Detoxification and Enzymes
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  • Key Takeaway: Water-only fasting causes a selective and rapid mobilization of excess sodium (natriuresis) and fat-soluble exogenous and endogenous toxins, a process more profound than seen in modified diets.
  • Summary: Fasting induces enzymatic systems, similar to exercise training, improving the body’s efficiency at mobilizing glycogen stores, and these improvements persist after refeeding. The body preferentially mobilizes visceral fat and toxins over essential tissues, suggesting an inherent intelligence in unwinding compromised systems. This rapid mobilization of toxins is a key physiological effect not fully replicated by less severe fasting protocols.
Longevity Diets and Fasting Relationship
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  • Key Takeaway: Longevity is best promoted by the 12-hour daily time-restricted eating window, while prolonged fasting protocols (like FMDs) are necessary to switch the system into long-term insulin-sensitive and anti-aging modes (lowering IGF-1).
  • Summary: The 12-hour fast is safe and effective for daily maintenance, whereas 16-hour fasts or skipping breakfast may increase mortality due to unknown factors related to eating late. Prolonged fasting (like five days) clearly switches the body into an insulin-sensitive state and lowers pro-aging factors like IGF-1 for months post-fast. Even individuals with long-standing obesity and diabetes can repair insulin sensitivity through these methods.
FMD vs. Other Fasting Protocols
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  • Key Takeaway: Alternate day fasting and 5-2 fasting are often too demanding for the general population to comply with long-term, whereas the FMD offers clinically tested metabolic benefits in a realistic, periodic format.
  • Summary: Protocols involving skipping breakfast (16-8 TRE) have been linked to negative metabolic consequences, suggesting that eating windows must be early. The FMD is favored because it is realistic (e.g., 3-4 times per year for five days) and has been rigorously tested across numerous clinical trials for various diseases. The goal is to repair systems rather than just manage symptoms with drugs, requiring a team approach involving physicians and dietitians.
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Fasting Consultation and Safety
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  • Key Takeaway: Consultations help determine if a patient is a candidate for home fasting, outpatient care, or requires inpatient supervision at a center like True North.
  • Summary: Success with FMD protocols can lead local doctors to support their patients using those methods, often starting with outpatient care. The initial consultation assesses candidacy for fasting and guides individuals toward the safest implementation method. If immediate inpatient care is not needed, patients may first adopt diet and lifestyle changes to become better candidates for fasting later.
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Fasting Candidate Assessment
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  • Key Takeaway: Fasting candidacy requires assessment for inpatient versus outpatient care based on medical stability.
  • Summary: Dr. Alan Goldhamer, a pioneer in water-only fasting, assesses candidates to determine if they qualify for home fasting, outpatient care, or require inpatient services. Absolute contraindications for inpatient fasting include conditions requiring medications that cannot be safely withdrawn, such as anticoagulants following a recent pulmonary embolism or cardiac arrest. Medications generally cannot be taken during fasting as they can become greatly potentiated, though some hormone replacement therapies may be exceptions with dose modification.
Determining Willingness to Comply
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  • Key Takeaway: Willingness to adhere to post-fast healthy eating is crucial for long-term success.
  • Summary: Willingness is gauged through detailed medical questionnaires and the interviewer’s extensive experience speaking with thousands of individuals over 40 years. Practitioners must ensure patients are willing to eat healthfully after fasting to avoid negative outcomes that might incorrectly blame the fast. The goal is achieving a good net long-term result, requiring a good faith effort from the participant.
Fasting Practice and Challenges
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  • Key Takeaway: Dr. Goldhamer practices a daily 16-hour fast and an annual week-long water fast, finding rest the hardest part.
  • Summary: Dr. Goldhamer fasts daily for 16 hours, typically eating between 8 or 9 AM and 5 or (5:30) PM, and fasts water-only for a week annually. He dislikes fasting because it necessitates resting and prohibits activities like basketball, which he finds annoying. Despite having a clean history (no smoking, drinking, or drugs), slowing down remains the biggest challenge during the beneficial, yet not pleasurable, annual fast.
Radical Intervention Rationale
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  • Key Takeaway: Fasting is radical because it addresses the root causes of chronic disease, not just the symptoms.
  • Summary: The term ‘radical’ applies because the intervention targets the root cause (‘radicus’) of health problems rather than just treating the leading causes of death like heart disease or cancer. The actual causes of death often stem from lifestyle factors like smoking, drinking, consuming animal foods, and highly processed carbohydrates. Addressing these fundamental causes through interventions like fasting is necessary given the worsening food environment.
Prescription for Healthful Living
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  • Key Takeaway: Health results from healthful living, encompassing diet, exercise, sleep, fasting, and stress minimization.
  • Summary: To achieve health, one must pay the price by living healthfully, which includes a whole plant food SOS-free diet, regular exercise, and abundant sleep hygiene. A daily 12 to 16-hour fast, supplemented by occasional appropriate fasting, is recommended. Minimizing stress involves focusing only on controllable factors.