New Heights with Jason & Travis Kelce

Heights Hotline | Terrible Dating Advice For Kids, Modern Inconveniences, and Revoking Man Cards

February 27, 2026

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  • When choosing which modern convenience to eliminate, Jason and Travis strongly favor keeping GPS over streaming or online ordering, with a preference for returning to calling in food orders. 
  • For the young caller seeking dating advice, the hosts offer conflicting guidance, ranging from authentic communication and chivalry to manipulative tactics like playing hard-to-get or using the 'forbidden fruit' strategy. 
  • The hosts agree that sitting down to urinate does not warrant revoking a man card, citing reasons like tiredness, middle-of-the-night convenience, or simply wanting to scroll on a phone. 

Segments

Forbidden Fruit Dating Strategy
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(00:00:00)
  • Key Takeaway: The initial dating advice suggests acting as the ‘forbidden apple’ by stating disinterest to drive attraction.
  • Summary: Women are characterized as being compelled to pursue what is forbidden, like eating the apple. The strategy proposed is to tell the desired person, “No, I’m not really looking for anything right now.” This approach is intended to drive the other person insane with desire.
Podcast Introduction and Hotline
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(00:00:35)
  • Key Takeaway: The hosts officially welcome listeners to the bonus episode of New Heights, focusing on the Heights Hotline.
  • Summary: Travis and Jason welcome listeners to the bonus episode of their Wondery show, New Heights. They confirm the segment will involve answering off-season questions submitted via the Heights Hotline. Listeners are reminded to subscribe on YouTube, Wondery+, or wherever podcasts are found.
Deleting Modern Conveniences
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(00:01:20)
  • Key Takeaway: Online ordering is deemed the most expendable modern convenience compared to GPS and streaming services.
  • Summary: The hosts debate sacrificing GPS, streaming, or online ordering forever. Travis initially worries cutting streaming might impact his livelihood, but both ultimately agree to eliminate online ordering. They express a desire to return to calling in food orders to interact with staff and hear about deals directly.
Advice for Asking Out a Girl
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(00:03:30)
  • Key Takeaway: Authentic communication, complimenting specific positive traits, and having a planned date destination are recommended for asking a girl out.
  • Summary: Good advice includes identifying what you like about the girl (e.g., humor, kindness) and complimenting that trait to gauge her reaction. Listeners are advised to have ‘cohones,’ ask directly, and have an enticing destination planned for the date. Trying too hard or forcing conversation is warned against; being authentic is key.
Terrible Dating Tactics Reiteration
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(00:04:11)
  • Key Takeaway: The hosts jokingly suggest manipulative, outdated dating tactics, such as befriending an unattractive friend to make the target jealous.
  • Summary: Jason offers the ‘Ed Kelsey tip’ involving befriending the target’s friend and making her feel interested to incite jealousy in the primary target. This tactic is immediately refuted by Travis as bogus and a ‘1950s way of dating.’ The concept of supply and demand economics is later applied to dating by creating competition.
Being Unpredictable and Bad Boy Image
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(00:10:24)
  • Key Takeaway: Extreme, unpredictable behavior, such as acting like ‘The Fonz’ or engaging in disruptive acts, is sarcastically suggested to attract women.
  • Summary: Women supposedly like men who are unpredictable, leading to suggestions like jumping into a trash can or kicking a teacher. The caller is advised to emulate ‘Fonzarelli’ from Happy Days or adopt a ‘bad boy’ persona by taking over the classroom. These suggestions are clearly satirical, contrasting with the earlier advice to ‘just be you.’
Man Card and Sitting to Pee
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(00:12:00)
  • Key Takeaway: Sitting down to urinate is deemed acceptable for men, especially for practical reasons like avoiding middle-of-the-night light exposure or physical discomfort.
  • Summary: The question of whether sitting to pee revokes a man card is met with universal agreement that it does not. Practical reasons cited include being tired, needing to avoid turning on bright lights at night, or simply wanting to scroll on a phone while using the toilet. The hosts emphasize that using the toilet as intended is not unmanly.
Closing Remarks and Sign-Off
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(00:13:56)
  • Key Takeaway: The hosts wrap up the bonus Heights Hotline segment, encouraging the young caller to report back on his dating progress.
  • Summary: The episode concludes the Heights Hotline segment, promising more bonus content in March. The hosts reiterate their request for the young man seeking dating advice to call back so they can hear the outcome. They end with a final, sarcastic piece of advice to use ’tons of Axe body spray’ on the date.