Chicks in the Office

Lisa Rinna Interview: Traitors Reunion Hot Seat, Colton Underwood's IG Unfollow + More!

February 25, 2026

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  • The hosts are highly anticipating the interview with Lisa Rinna, which was conducted virtually due to snow disrupting in-person plans. 
  • The hosts and guest discussed personal body image struggles, including the desire for cosmetic procedures and the impact of negative comments, leading to a lighthearted yet serious conversation about body dysmorphia. 
  • The episode previewed upcoming segments covering the Met Gala theme "Fashion is Art," casting news for movie adaptations of 'Breakfast at Tiffany’s' (Lily Collins) and 'Beach Read' (Phoebe Dynevor), and Harry Styles hosting/performing on SNL. 
  • Lisa Rinna believes the reality TV audience is now savvy enough to understand producer involvement, making her more open to discussing behind-the-scenes aspects than she would have been 15 years ago. 
  • Lisa Rinna was convinced to join *The Traitors* by a friend's 27-year-old daughter, Sidney Bacco, and she intentionally sought to make 'iconic television,' even embracing the dramatic moment of banishing Jam Jam with the amulet. 
  • Lisa Rinna maintains that she has not watched *The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills* since leaving and prioritizes kindness and professionalism as the most important advice for her daughters in the industry. 

Segments

Intro and Sponsor Reads
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(00:00:00)
  • Key Takeaway: The episode begins with sponsor plugs for Bombus socks and Microsoft Copilot before introducing the main guest.
  • Summary: Listeners are informed about where to find every episode of Chicks in the Office. Bombus Sport socks are promoted for various athletic activities. Microsoft 365 Copilot is highlighted as an AI assistant for Word, Excel, and PowerPoint to increase efficiency.
Lisa Rinna Interview Setup
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(00:01:54)
  • Key Takeaway: Lisa Rinna’s interview was conducted virtually because the planned in-person meeting was canceled due to snow.
  • Summary: The hosts express excitement for the Lisa Rinna interview, noting it was supposed to be in person but had to switch to virtual due to weather issues. They clarify that a recent news story about Lisa Rinna allegedly being drugged at The Abbey occurred after their interview was recorded on Monday.
Upcoming Show Schedule
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(00:03:36)
  • Key Takeaway: The Chicks in the Office will not have an episode on Friday as they head to Charlotte for a live show featuring Molly and Sally from Southern Charm.
  • Summary: The hosts confirm this is the last episode of the week, with no Friday release, as they travel to Charlotte for a show. They announce that Molly and Sally from Southern Charm will be guests on the Charlotte live show. Tickets for the ongoing tour are currently on sale.
Snow Day Aftermath Discussion
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(00:04:33)
  • Key Takeaway: New York City cleared the recent heavy snowfall quickly, leading to a brief, magical period of enjoying the snow before returning to normal slushy conditions.
  • Summary: One host expressed being ready to leave after enjoying the initial day of snow, noting the quick cleanup by NYC crews. They compared this storm favorably to a previous one, suggesting city services learned from past mistakes. The hosts observed many large snowmen built in the parks.
Vacation Prep and Body Image
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(00:06:38)
  • Key Takeaway: One host is skipping a spray tan before their upcoming couples trip due to feeling self-conscious after trying on bathing suits and dresses.
  • Summary: The hosts discuss their upcoming vacation, with one admitting to a downward spiral of body insecurity after trying on clothes, even contemplating liposuction on her arms. They acknowledge the common struggle with body image, especially during winter, and the importance of self-acceptance over succumbing to outside pressure.
Body Dysmorphia and Self-Acceptance
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(00:11:48)
  • Key Takeaway: The hosts acknowledge dealing with body dysmorphia, emphasizing the importance of working on self-acceptance rather than making changes solely to silence external critics.
  • Summary: The conversation touches on how negative comments, like one about hip dips or past weight comments, stick with individuals long-term. They stress that making personal changes should stem from genuine desire for self-improvement, not from reacting to online noise. The hosts conclude this segment by emphasizing the need to ‘come back up for air’ when getting trapped in negative thought spirals.
Pop Corner: Miley Cyrus Theory
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(00:25:47)
  • Key Takeaway: A listener theorizes that the Hannah Montana 20th Anniversary Special will feature Miley Cyrus being interviewed as Hannah Montana by Alex Cooper on ‘Call Her Daddy.’
  • Summary: The hosts review listener voicemails, starting with a theory about the Hannah Montana special involving Alex Cooper. While the hosts doubt it will be a full ‘Call Her Daddy’ episode, they concede a short sketch where Miley plays Hannah might be possible. They agree that Miley Cyrus must play Hannah Montana for the special to make sense.
Pop Corner: Hillary Duff Duet Wishlist
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  • Key Takeaway: Listeners suggested Hillary Duff should duet with Lindsay Lohan or have a Cheetah Girls reunion on her tour.
  • Summary: A listener asked who Hillary Duff should duet with, leading the hosts to immediately suggest a Cheetah Girls reunion, given their shared Disney era. They also liked the idea of a Lindsay Lohan collaboration, referencing their shared pop history. The hosts noted Demi Lovato is asking fans for deep cuts for her tour setlist.
Pop Corner: Hannah Montana Audience Debate
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(00:33:16)
  • Key Takeaway: A debate exists over whether Hannah Montana was primarily a show for Millennials or Gen Z, with the hosts leaning towards Millennials due to the show’s run dates and Miley Cyrus’s age.
  • Summary: The hosts discussed a viral TikTok claiming Hannah Montana was a Gen Z show, noting the show ran from 2006 to 2011. The hosts felt that being in middle school/early high school during the run made it more of a Millennial touchstone, especially since the character was in high school on the show.
Pop Corner: Vanderpump Rules Rebrand
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(00:41:18)
  • Key Takeaway: A listener suggested the new Vanderpump Rules cast might be better received if the show was rebranded entirely, similar to ‘Southern Hospitality,’ to avoid direct comparisons to the original cast’s drama.
  • Summary: The listener praised the new VPR for being lighter than current reality TV, but felt the name created unfair comparisons to the original cast. The hosts agreed that the comparison factor is difficult when keeping the original title. They noted that the show has been renewed for a second season, suggesting it is finding its footing.
Interview: Lisa Rinna Memoir Writing
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(00:46:00)
  • Key Takeaway: Lisa Rinna initially did not want to write a second book but agreed after meeting three ghostwriters and connecting strongly with Dibs, who captured her voice.
  • Summary: Lisa Rinna confirmed that her new memoir, ‘You Better Believe I’m Going to Talk About It,’ was written with a ghostwriter named Dibs, whom she felt understood her voice. She described the writing process as challenging, sad, and cathartic, but ultimately a good experience because she felt she had to ‘walk the walk and talk the talk’ by sharing vulnerable stories.
Interview: Lisa Rinna’s Early Self
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(00:50:07)
  • Key Takeaway: Lisa Rinna credits her husband, Harry Hamlin, with unleashing her current expressive personality after she became self-conscious and subdued in her teens.
  • Summary: Growing up as an only child allowed her to be herself, but teasing in school made her self-conscious by her teenage years. She recounted a story from Tahiti where Harry Hamlin encouraged her to pose more dynamically for photos, effectively ‘unleashing the monster’ of her current persona. She views her time on ‘Housewives’ as being in ‘survival mode’ due to constant reaction.
Reality TV Production Honesty
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(00:52:23)
  • Key Takeaway: Lisa Rinna notes that audiences are now savvy and expect producers to be involved in reality shows, unlike in the genre’s early days.
  • Summary: Audiences are now savvy about reality TV production, understanding that only a fraction of a person’s true self is shown on screen. This awareness means breaking the fourth wall no longer shocks viewers, who still consume the content readily. People often get locked into molds like ‘villain’ based on limited seasonal exposure.
Fan Reaction to Rinna’s Return
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(00:55:00)
  • Key Takeaway: Fans who previously disliked Lisa Rinna now express a desire for her return to The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills after seeing her on The Traitors.
  • Summary: Rinna finds it ironic that fan sentiment has swung back to wanting her on RHOBH, noting that her personality hasn’t changed, only the context (from Housewives to The Traitors). She believes her appearance on The Traitors allowed the audience to see her for who she truly is. Her husband suggests fans never truly hated her, they just had a temporary ‘spin’ on their feelings.
Deciding to Join The Traitors
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  • Key Takeaway: Lisa Rinna took five months to decide on joining The Traitors and was ultimately convinced by a close friend’s 27-year-old daughter, Sidney Bacco.
  • Summary: Rinna was asked to join in September but didn’t decide until February, feeling hesitant about participating versus just watching the show. She sought counsel from a friend whose daughter was a massive fan and convinced her to participate. Rinna wanted to be a traitor for maximum camera time and because she thought it would be more fun to play the villain.
Strategy Against Gamers
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(00:58:45)
  • Key Takeaway: Rinna and the other initial traitors strategically targeted ‘gamers’ from shows like Survivor and Big Brother early on because they were perceived as the biggest threats.
  • Summary: Rinna did not expect to be chosen as a traitor, thinking it might be too obvious. She recognized that contestants who won competitive reality shows would be dangerous players. The strategy involved eliminating the biggest threats first, which included taking out the gamers relatively early in the game.
Banished and Reunion Dynamics
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(00:59:47)
  • Key Takeaway: Rinna knew her time was limited after surviving the first banishment by only one vote, and she accepted her final banishment by Jam Jam without a major fight because she knew it was over.
  • Summary: Rinna felt ’naively blissful’ in the castle because she didn’t know Rob was driving the vote against her, despite Colton being onto her. After Mark Ballas’s vote saved her initially, she knew her days were numbered. She did not fight hard at the final table because she recognized the conviction in Jam Jam’s decision to banish her.
Iconic Amulet Moment
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(01:02:34)
  • Key Takeaway: Rinna willingly took the risk of wearing the amulet because she is committed to delivering ‘iconic television,’ viewing the dramatic banishment moment as a perfect scene.
  • Summary: Rinna stated she wanted to wear the amulet because it would look iconic on her dress and she is there to deliver great television. She felt the moment where Jam Jam screamed her name after she killed him with the amulet was an unscripted, perfect scene. She believes the show needs both gamers and traditional reality TV personalities to make good television.
Housewives Loyalty Rule
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  • Key Takeaway: Rinna was unaware of the unwritten rule among Real Housewives contestants not to target each other on The Traitors and actively broke this rule as a traitor.
  • Summary: Rinna did not know about the supposed rule that housewives shouldn’t target each other until she was already on The Traitors. She felt no loyalty to the housewife group because she is a traitor and not loyal to anyone in the game. She believes if you are mad about being targeted in a game called Traitors, you shouldn’t have played.
Reunion Seat and Colton Conflict
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  • Key Takeaway: Rinna was surprised to be seated next to Andy Cohen in the hot seat at The Traitors reunion but felt it was her job to ask Colton pertinent questions about his game strategy against her.
  • Summary: Rinna was accustomed to reunions but felt singled out being next to Andy Cohen, as she didn’t make it to the very end. She felt obligated to ask Colton, her nemesis, questions about why he targeted her, especially after seeing his confessionals. She hopes the reunion footage is aired because viewers have the same questions.
Colton’s Instagram Unfollow
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  • Key Takeaway: Lisa Rinna noted that Colton Underwood unfollowed her on Instagram shortly after The Traitors aired, leading her to jokingly conclude she must have ‘pissed him off’ at the reunion.
  • Summary: Rinna learned about the unfollow from someone else and immediately suspected it was a reaction to her behavior at the reunion. She still follows everyone from the cast because she loves them. She felt she did nothing wrong at the reunion by asking questions relevant to the game.
Rob’s Attractiveness and Maura
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  • Key Takeaway: Rinna attributes her ability to play strategically against Rob to being accustomed to handsome men through her career, unlike others who were too distracted by his looks to play effectively.
  • Summary: Rinna found it fascinating how captivated everyone, male and female, was by Rob’s looks, making it hard for them to assess him as a player. She approached Rob early on to figure him out, which allowed her to play ‘chess’ with him later. She jokes that Maura, who can take teasing well, was completely taken by Rob’s looks.
Maintaining Housewife Friendships
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  • Key Takeaway: Rinna actively tries to maintain relationships with certain Real Housewives cast members like Teddi Mellencamp, Erika Jayne, and Dorit Kemsley because they are ’trauma-bonded’ from their shared history.
  • Summary: It is difficult to maintain relationships when not working together daily, similar to her experiences on Days of Our Lives or Melrose Place. She feels a deep connection with some women due to the unique history they share on the show. Since leaving RHOBH, she has chosen to completely mute the show to move forward.
Favorite Acting Roles and Fashion
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  • Key Takeaway: Rinna cites her roles on Entourage, Veronica Mars, The Middle, and Community as favorite guest spots, and views her recent high-fashion moments as unexpected, ‘pinch-me’ experiences.
  • Summary: She has accumulated a great archive of 90s fashion because designers rarely loaned clothes during that era, unlike today where couture is loaned for single wears. Her daughters are hesitant to wear her vintage pieces, initially reacting with ’ew,’ until they realize the iconic nature of the designer items. She advises her daughters to live by example, emphasizing kindness and professionalism above all else.
Book Insights and Marriage
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(01:23:22)
  • Key Takeaway: Rinna’s book, You Better Believe I’m Gonna Talk About It, covers diverse topics beyond Housewives, including her mother Lois’s passing and her enduring, supportive relationship with Harry Hamlin.
  • Summary: The book offers insights into her life post-Lois’s passing, providing background information viewers didn’t see on television. Harry Hamlin read the book quickly and confirmed her voice came through strongly, which Rinna considered a major win. She emphasizes that maintaining admiration and cheerleading for one’s spouse is crucial to a long-lasting marriage.