Chicks in the Office

DEMI LOVATO INTERVIEW + Taylor Frankie Paul Allegations

March 18, 2026

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  • The hosts are highly enthusiastic about the return interview with Demi Lovato, noting it might be even better than their first, and teasing discussions about her new cookbook, *One Plate at a Time*, and *Camp Rock 3*. 
  • The episode immediately dives into serious, breaking news regarding Taylor Frankie Paul, detailing allegations of domestic abuse between her and Dakota, which has reportedly caused production pauses on *Mormon Wives* season five. 
  • The hosts also covered the restraining order filed against Huda Mustafa by Louis Russell's baby mama over alleged threats and uninvited confrontations. 
  • Demi Lovato advocates for intuitive eating and body acceptance over body positivity, viewing acceptance as a more attainable goal during recovery from disordered eating. 
  • Demi Lovato's new cookbook, *One Plate at a Time*, reflects her journey toward food freedom, including confronting previously feared recipes and overcoming past professional restrictions that triggered an eating disorder relapse. 
  • Fans submitted their desired setlist songs for Demi Lovato's upcoming tour, including deep cuts like "Don't Forget," "Lightweight," and "Happy Ending," the latter of which she co-wrote with her now-husband. 

Segments

Podcast Intro and Sponsor Reads
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(00:00:00)
  • Key Takeaway: The episode begins with housekeeping announcements, including where to find Chicks in the Office episodes and a promotion for Bombus socks and Microsoft 365 Copilot.
  • Summary: Listeners can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, with ad-free listening available on Amazon Music for Prime members. The introduction features an advertisement for Bombus sport socks, offering 20% off with code ‘audio’. Microsoft 365 Copilot is highlighted as an AI assistant built into Microsoft 365 apps to help summarize and draft content.
Demi Lovato Interview Tease
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(00:01:55)
  • Key Takeaway: The hosts express extreme excitement for the return interview with Demi Lovato, promising discussions about her new cookbook and Camp Rock 3 teasers.
  • Summary: The hosts consider the interview with Demi Lovato to be ‘so freaking good’ and possibly better than her previous appearance. They specifically mention discussing her cookbook, One Plate at a Time, and providing ‘Camp Rock three teas.’ The hosts joke about Demi becoming a friend after a third appearance.
Hosts’ Personal Updates
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(00:04:08)
  • Key Takeaway: The hosts are busy completing appointments before an exciting, undisclosed event next week, which is related to their upcoming Dallas show.
  • Summary: The hosts confirm they have been together consecutively and are currently crossing off many appointments. They tease an exciting, undisclosed event happening next week before the Dallas show, which one host notes will be their ‘first one ever.’ They also briefly discuss the merits and longevity of Russian manicures and pedicures.
Taylor Frankie Paul Allegations Deep Dive
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(00:10:08)
  • Key Takeaway: Extensive details emerged regarding alleged domestic abuse between Taylor Frankie Paul and Dakota, including police involvement and DCFS investigations, following the Mormon Wives finale.
  • Summary: The segment details allegations that Taylor choked Dakota in front of their son, and that Dakota later called the police claiming Taylor was the aggressor in a separate car incident. DCFS has an open investigation, and both parties were ordered to undergo psychological evaluations. The hosts criticize ABC for promoting The Bachelorette season amidst these serious allegations, noting production has been paused.
Huda Mustafa Restraining Order
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(00:34:21)
  • Key Takeaway: Louis Russell’s baby mama, Nicole Olivera, filed a restraining order against Huda Mustafa due to alleged trespassing, threats, and showing up uninvited at her home.
  • Summary: Nicole Olivera claims Huda forced her way into her LA apartment building around (1:30) a.m. on February 21st, despite not having access. Huda allegedly sent alarming messages threatening self-harm, which Louis Russell reportedly recognized as manipulation, urging her to seek hospital care. Nicole is seeking legal action solely for the privacy and safety of her son.
PopCorner Voicemails: Harry Styles
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(00:40:01)
  • Key Takeaway: A listener voiced a desire for Harry Styles to incorporate more powerful ballads that showcase his vocal range, rather than focusing on his current ’talky singing’ style.
  • Summary: The caller loves Harry Styles’ new album but feels his beautiful, unique voice is underutilized in favor of a more conversational singing style. The hosts agree that they would ’eat up’ an album full of ballads like ‘Sign of the Times’ or ‘Coming Up Roses.’ They acknowledge that while they appreciate his current musical era, hearing him belt out songs more often would be welcome.
PopCorner Voicemails: Call Her Daddy Drama
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(00:43:23)
  • Key Takeaway: The hosts confirmed they maintained a professional distance from Alex Cooper and Sophia Elemanis during the Call Her Daddy drama, only interacting briefly at Barstool events.
  • Summary: The hosts stated they were ‘drama adjacent’ but never directly involved with the Call Her Daddy hosts. They noted that Alex and Sophia generally kept themselves separate from other Barstool employees. The hosts expressed curiosity about the content of Sophia’s upcoming memoir, especially since Dave Portnoy has suggested it will contain lies.
PopCorner Voicemails: Reality TV FMK
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(00:46:40)
  • Key Takeaway: In a ‘Fuck, Marry, Kill’ segment, the hosts unanimously chose to ‘Kill’ The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, while they chose to ‘Marry’ Traitors and ‘Fuck’ Dancing with the Stars.
  • Summary: The decision to ‘Kill’ RHOSLC was easy for both hosts, despite generally liking the show. Traitors was chosen for marriage due to its compelling, darker nature, while Dancing with the Stars was chosen for ‘fuck’ because of the hosts’ long-standing, enjoyable relationship with the show.
PopCorner Voicemails: Carl as Summer House Heart
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(00:47:39)
  • Key Takeaway: A listener argued that Carl is the true ‘heart’ of Summer House due to his consistent involvement in major storylines since season one, including his sobriety journey.
  • Summary: Carl has been central to the drama, from early conflicts with the Wirkus twins to his recent sobriety and relationship drama with Lindsay. The hosts agreed that Carl deserves recognition for driving storylines and for his positive growth arc. A mid-season trailer suggests Carl will continue to bring drama, potentially confronting Kyle.
Demi Lovato Interview: Cookbook Focus
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(00:52:50)
  • Key Takeaway: Demi Lovato’s cookbook, One Plate at a Time, is specifically designed to be non-intimidating and helpful for individuals in recovery from disordered eating.
  • Summary: Demi wrote the cookbook to simplify cooking for those new to the kitchen or those recovering from disordered eating, a journey she began five years ago when grocery shopping caused panic attacks. The recipes range from simple to more challenging, but the core goal is helping people find ‘freedom with food.’ Finding this freedom means feeling deserving of any food one chooses to eat.
Food Freedom and Intuitive Eating
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(00:56:48)
  • Key Takeaway: Freedom in food choices fosters creativity in cooking and is crucial for recovery.
  • Summary: Achieving freedom in food choices allows for greater creativity in the kitchen, exemplified by recipes in the new cookbook that the former self would have avoided. Trying foods once feared is a significant step in recovery, leading to a healthier relationship with food. This contrasts with diet culture pressures that force people to feel they must ‘work for’ food or adhere to rigid ‘good’ or ‘bad’ food labels.
Body Acceptance vs. Positivity
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(01:02:44)
  • Key Takeaway: Body acceptance is often more realistic and less pressuring than mandatory body positivity.
  • Summary: Body positivity can impose expectations that are difficult to meet on days struggling with body dysmorphia. Body acceptance, or neutrality, is presented as a more attainable goal, allowing individuals to function and be grateful for their body’s health without needing to love it every day. This approach removes the pressure to constantly fake positive feelings about one’s body.
Cookbook Photo Shoot Details
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(01:05:38)
  • Key Takeaway: Cookbook shoots involved both professional food styling and relaxed family settings.
  • Summary: The cookbook photo shoot involved two distinct days: one focused on food photography requiring impressive food styling skills, and a second, more relaxed day shot at home featuring Demi’s husband, dogs, and mother. Demi’s husband particularly enjoys the ‘Honeymoon Chicken’ (a spin on ‘Marry Me Chicken’) and the chocolate chip fudge brownies from the book.
Fan Tour Song Requests
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(01:08:15)
  • Key Takeaway: Fans requested a mix of early hits, fan favorites, and recent tracks for the upcoming tour setlist.
  • Summary: Fan requests for the tour included early songs like “Don’t Forget” and “Lightweight,” as well as tracks from the Un সমালো album like “La La Land” and “Neon Lights.” Demi revealed she might play unreleased new music on the tour and noted that “Happy Ending” holds special significance as she co-wrote it with her now-husband.
Vocal Health and Tour Prep
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(01:13:16)
  • Key Takeaway: Vocal protection involves rigorous warm-ups, cool-downs, and scheduled vocal rest between performances.
  • Summary: Tour preparation includes extensive rehearsals, dancing, and cardio to ensure physical readiness for high-belting performances. Singers must perform vocal warm-downs using reverse scales to transition safely from high notes to speaking voice. Demi plans to utilize vocal rest, sometimes not speaking on days off, to protect her voice during the demanding tour schedule.
Disney Star Mount Rushmore Debate
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(01:17:30)
  • Key Takeaway: Disney stars who fundamentally transformed the channel’s identity, like Raven-Symoné and Hilary Duff, define the Mount Rushmore.
  • Summary: The discussion centered on who constitutes the ultimate Disney star Mount Rushmore, acknowledging that different generations have different icons. Stars like Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera from the Mickey Mouse Club era paved the way but did not transform the channel like Raven-Symoné and Hilary Duff did. For their generation, the definitive group is Demi Lovato, Miley Cyrus, Selena Gomez, and the Jonas Brothers.
Viral Songs and Future Moments
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(01:22:35)
  • Key Takeaway: “Cool for the Summer” remains a perennial summer anthem due to social media trends, while “Really Don’t Care” surprised Demi with its live popularity.
  • Summary: “Cool for the Summer” consistently goes viral as the weather warms up, cementing its status as a summer anthem. Demi expressed a wish for “Sorry, Not Sorry” to have another viral moment, noting that live performance reactions often dictate which songs gain new traction. During a past album launch show, “Really Don’t Care” unexpectedly elicited the strongest crowd reaction.
Reality TV and Tour Giveaway
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(01:24:47)
  • Key Takeaway: The hosts are watching The Traitors and The Pit, and are giving away five pairs of tickets for Demi’s tour.
  • Summary: Demi is currently re-watching The Walking Dead and watching the intense medical drama The Pit, while the hosts are invested in The Traitors, though Demi admitted she would crack under pressure as a traitor. To promote the tour, Chicks in the Office is hosting a giveaway for five pairs of tickets; listeners must follow both accounts and comment their pick for Demi’s most underrated song to enter.