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November 17, 2025

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  • The Meta Ray-Ban Display glasses offer practical utility for tourists, particularly for navigation in complex environments like Rome, but their use raises significant cultural and privacy concerns due to their discreet recording capabilities and white indicator light. 
  • The discussion highlighted the ethical dilemma of wearable recording devices, noting that while the white recording light is less obvious than traditional red indicators, it can still be easily missed, leading to situations where users feel like 'super spies' and others feel unknowingly surveilled. 
  • The Apple vs. Masimo patent dispute over the Apple Watch's blood oxygen sensor resulted in a $634 million jury verdict against Apple, underscoring the high stakes in wearable technology patent litigation, despite Apple's intent to appeal. 
  • The discussion briefly touched upon corporate liability for active infringement, suggesting companies generally hold the infringing party responsible. 
  • X is rolling out end-to-end encrypted chat with video calling, signaling progress toward Elon Musk's vision of an 'everything app.' 
  • There is significant discussion regarding the potential succession of Tim Cook as Apple CEO, with John Turnis named as a likely successor, amidst critiques of Apple's recent product direction like Apple Intelligence and the Vision Pro flop. 
  • Intel's repeated failures in GPU efforts and mobile chips are compared unfavorably to AMD's strategic success under Lisa Su, highlighting a significant fumble given Intel's strong brand recognition. 
  • Qualcomm's recent success in the Windows market with Copilot Plus PCs is attributed to their acquisition of Nuvia, a team founded by former Apple Silicon creators, demonstrating the value of acquiring top design talent. 
  • Apple has a significant opportunity to excel in the local AI space due to its dedicated AI circuitry and unified memory architecture, despite rumors of a partnership with Google for cloud-based Gemini models to enhance Siri. 
  • The Lucas Museum of Narrative Art, featuring 40,000 works including the Lucas archives, is scheduled to open in Los Angeles next year on September 22nd. 
  • Spotify has introduced an AI-generated audiobook recap feature to help listeners catch up on stories, though some hosts prefer using Audible or Libby for audiobooks. 
  • The conversation concluded with a detailed discussion on the growing trend of personal health monitoring devices, such as Withings' BMO (a multi-sensor health device) and urine-testing gadgets, raising concerns about data privacy and the potential for insurance companies to mandate their use. 

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Guest Introductions and Banter
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  • Key Takeaway: Christina Warren has returned to the tech scene after a period working at Google DeepMind and is now at GitHub.
  • Summary: Victoria Song, Senior Reviewer at The Verge, and Christina Warren, now at GitHub, are introduced as guests on This Week in Tech. Christina Warren humorously detailed her attire at GitHub Universe, including limited edition Windows XP Crocs obtained via an employee connection. The segment concluded with a brief, lighthearted discussion about Victoria Song’s cat, Petey.
Meta Ray-Ban Display Review
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  • Key Takeaway: The Meta Ray-Ban Display glasses’ best use case in Rome was for real-time walking directions, while live translation proved clunky in noisy, public tourist settings.
  • Summary: Victoria Song detailed using the Meta Ray-Ban Display glasses in Rome, noting the heads-up display improved framing for photos and videos compared to previous models. Live captions and translations were useful one-on-one but struggled with background noise in public areas. The battery life was cited as the biggest weakness alongside the physical size of the display model.
Wearable Tech Etiquette and Privacy
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  • Key Takeaway: The discreet nature of modern smart glasses, especially with features like silent recording via the neural band, creates a new level of insidious surveillance risk compared to the obviousness of Google Glass.
  • Summary: The guests agreed that the white recording indicator light on the Meta glasses is less noticeable than traditional red lights, especially in daylight, leading to social awkwardness when others realize they are being recorded. The ability to silently initiate recording using gestures, like tapping the temple piece, feels like ‘James Bond level’ technology in the hands of the average consumer. Meta’s current guidance relies on a simple ‘don’t be a jerk’ etiquette guide, which the hosts feel is insufficient for leading the space.
Zapier AI Orchestration Ad Read
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  • Key Takeaway: Zapier has evolved into an AI orchestration platform, allowing users to integrate AI models like ChatGPT and Claude into existing or new automated workflows.
  • Summary: Zapier connects over 3,000 tools and now supports adding AI capabilities to automate tasks further. Leo Laporte demonstrated using Zapier to automatically process bookmarked stories, formatting them for producers and potentially adding AI-generated synopses via Claude. The platform is designed to be accessible to non-experts, having already automated over 300 million AI tasks for businesses.
Apple Patent Loss to Masimo
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  • Key Takeaway: A jury ordered Apple to pay Masimo $634 million for patent infringement related to the Apple Watch’s pulse oximetry feature, which Masimo claims was derived from hiring away their chief medical officer.
  • Summary: Apple is appealing the jury decision, which found infringement on Masimo’s patent concerning optical sensors for detecting blood flow. The feature was temporarily disabled on new Apple Watches following an ITC ruling but was later restored via a workaround. The panelists noted that the pulse oximetry feature is not considered a critical diagnostic tool by Apple, making the large fine and legal battle seem disproportionate.
Google Antitrust Fine in Germany
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  • Key Takeaway: Google was fined $665 million in Germany for abusing its dominant market position by prioritizing its own services, like Google Shopping, in search results over competitors like Idealo.
  • Summary: The German court ruled that Google’s practice of favoring its affiliated products in search results violated antitrust laws. The discussion touched upon the cultural difference between US tech companies resisting regulation and the EU’s more proactive stance on consumer protection and privacy. Google’s defense likely centered on its right to curate results on its own platform, but the ruling suggests limits to that autonomy as a monopoly.
Disney/YouTube TV Deal & AI Content
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  • Key Takeaway: Disney and YouTube TV settled their carriage dispute, ending the blackout, shortly before Disney’s earnings call where CEO Bob Iger announced plans to deploy AI for creating dynamic content and allowing consumer creation on Disney Plus platforms.
  • Summary: The resolution of the carriage dispute meant Monday Night Football returned to YouTube TV, with customers receiving partial refunds for the disruption. Bob Iger’s comments about AI suggest potential for user-generated content using Disney IP, which immediately raised concerns among creatives about the risks of generating inappropriate or copyrighted material. The panelists noted that AI image generators are easily jailbroken to create controversial content involving public figures by using descriptive proxies instead of names.
X Encrypted Chat Rollout
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  • Key Takeaway: X is finally rolling out its end-to-end encrypted chat feature, including video calling.
  • Summary: X has announced the rollout of its end-to-end encrypted chat feature, which also supports video calling. This development is seen as a step toward X becoming the ’everything app.’ The rollout follows Elon Musk’s previous comments dismissing other encrypted services like Signal.
Slipper Preferences and Brands
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  • Key Takeaway: Participants compared comfort and utility of Crocs slides versus wool slippers like Glareps and Ufus.
  • Summary: One guest expressed dislike for standard Crocs comfort but found Croc slides suitable as house slippers. A preference was stated for wool slippers, specifically mentioning Glareps (felted wool with leather soles) and Ufus (rubber recovery slippers) for different uses. The discussion highlighted that Glareps are often sourced from Sweden.
Lafufu vs. Laboo Boo Figurines
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  • Key Takeaway: A ‘Laboo Boo’ is the authentic collectible figurine, while a ‘Lafufu’ is a recognizable, jagged knockoff dupe.
  • Summary: The conversation clarified the distinction between the authentic ‘Laboo Boo’ and the ‘Lafufu’ knockoff, noting the latter often has incorrect stitching or tooth counts, giving it unique character. One participant successfully acquired a Coca-Cola themed Laboo Boo at a new Pop Mart location in San Francisco.
Atlanta Soda Terminology
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  • Key Takeaway: In Atlanta, the generic term for carbonated soft drinks is ‘Coke,’ regardless of the actual brand served.
  • Summary: A participant from Atlanta confirmed that the regional vernacular dictates calling all sodas ‘Coke,’ even when ordering at establishments owned by PepsiCo. Exceptions exist on certain university campuses (Emory, Georgia Tech, UGA) which maintain exclusive Coca-Cola product agreements. This regional linguistic habit persists despite living elsewhere for extended periods.
Deal HR/Hiring Platform
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  • Key Takeaway: Deal is an AI-powered global platform simplifying the hiring, onboarding, and payroll compliance for international employees.
  • Summary: Deal addresses the complexity of hiring overseas by providing a single system for HR, IT, and payroll across over 100 countries. The platform eliminates the need for setting up local entities or managing disparate local payroll laws. Companies can sign up new hires and ship devices in minutes using this global infrastructure.
Dr. Pepper Distribution History
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  • Key Takeaway: Coca-Cola bottles Dr. Pepper in almost every territory outside the US due to historical distribution agreements.
  • Summary: Dr. Pepper distribution in the United States is handled separately from Coca-Cola due to competitive restrictions, historically involving companies like Cadbury Schweppes and Keurig Dr. Pepper. Internationally, Coca-Cola often handles the bottling and distribution of Dr. Pepper products. The ownership structure of Dr. Pepper has changed hands multiple times over the years.
X Chat Trust and Grok AI
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  • Key Takeaway: Skepticism exists regarding trusting X’s new end-to-end encryption given the controversial nature of its associated AI, Grok.
  • Summary: The rollout of X’s encrypted chat is discussed in the context of trusting Elon Musk’s platform for secure communication. A past experience with Grok AI, specifically the ‘rude raccoon’ persona, highlighted the AI’s unpredictable and sometimes appalling output. This raises questions about the reliability and safety of X’s security infrastructure.
Grackapedia vs. Wikipedia
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  • Key Takeaway: Grackapedia appears to ingest Wikipedia articles but supplements them with additional, potentially newer or more detailed information gathered from the internet.
  • Summary: Grackapedia seems to use Wikipedia as a base but adds more details, possibly leveraging internet searches to keep content current, which is an advantage over Wikipedia’s manual updates. The segment raised the question of whether Jimmy Wales would now consider using AI to generate initial content stubs if starting Wikipedia today. Early Wikipedia entries were often copy-pasted from established encyclopedias like Funk & Wagnalls.
Tim Cook Succession Rumors
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  • Key Takeaway: The Financial Times reported Apple is preparing for Tim Cook to step down as soon as next year, potentially naming John Turnis as successor.
  • Summary: Sources suggest Apple is preparing for Tim Cook’s departure, possibly in 2025, with John Turnis, SVP of hardware engineering, being the likely successor. This aligns with broader trends noted by Axios regarding the ’twilight of the star CEO,’ citing similar departures at Walmart and Disney. Critics argue Apple’s recent product direction, including lagging AI and the Vision Pro, suggests a product crisis under Cook.
Apple iPhone Sizing Debate
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  • Key Takeaway: The proliferation of iPhone SKUs, especially four models in the Pro lineup, creates confusion for consumers trying to select the right size.
  • Summary: The difficulty in choosing an iPad or iPhone model due to excessive SKU proliferation was highlighted, contrasting with Steve Jobs’ era of clear product direction. One panelist chose the smaller iPhone 17 Pro size (6.3 inches) to preserve wrist health, while another chose the largest size for battery life, acknowledging the difficulty in one-handed use regardless of size. The standard iPhone 17 model is suggested to be the best phone for many users, despite its perceived target audience of non-photo-taking executives.
Apple iPhone Pocket Hype
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  • Key Takeaway: The $250 Apple iPhone Pocket, designed by Issey Miyake’s collaborator, is criticized as an overpriced sock, though some desire it for hype.
  • Summary: The $250 iPhone Pocket accessory, designed by a Miyake associate, was widely mocked as essentially a knitted sock, with friends offering to knit similar items for $10-$20. The desire for the item is attributed to hype culture, despite its impracticality and resemblance to the Borat Mankini. The accessory’s high price point contrasts sharply with its simple knitted construction.
Defunct Company Merch Collecting
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  • Key Takeaway: One panelist maintains a collection of merchandise from defunct or failed companies like Theranos, FTX, and Enron.
  • Summary: A panelist collects memorabilia from failed companies, including items from Theranos (a fleece with a fake blood drop logo), FTX, and Movie Pass. This collection is viewed as an ‘internet archive for merch,’ preserving artifacts from significant business failures. The collection also includes items from the 1999 Microsoft World’s Fair event.
Formula One and Drive to Survive
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  • Key Takeaway: The Netflix series ‘Drive to Survive’ has successfully attracted a large, younger female demographic to the Formula One fanbase.
  • Summary: Apple recently acquired the rights to Formula One coverage, which could integrate well with the Vision Pro headset for immersive viewing. The growth in F1’s younger female fanbase is directly attributed to the popularity of the ‘Drive to Survive’ documentary series. The documentary ‘Senna’ is cited as another influential piece that deepened perspective on the sport’s tragic history.
AMD Gains on Intel Market Share
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  • Key Takeaway: AMD now commands 25% of all x86 chips and 33% of desktop systems, continuing its steady erosion of Intel’s market dominance.
  • Summary: AMD’s quarterly results show continued success in taking market share from Intel, a decline attributed partly to Intel missing the mobile market and failing to advance nanometer technology. CEO Lisa Su is credited with making strategic decisions, like focusing on the chiplet system, that allowed AMD to challenge Intel in both consumer and server spaces. Intel’s repeated failures in GPU efforts further compound its struggles against competitors like AMD and NVIDIA.
Intel vs AMD Fumbles
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  • Key Takeaway: Intel’s leadership failures led to losing the mobile market to AMD, which executed superior strategic decisions under Lisa Su.
  • Summary: Intel’s repeated failures in GPU efforts and losing the mobile market are contrasted with AMD’s success driven by strong leadership. The speakers note that Intel’s brand recognition, once comparable to Beyoncé’s, has been squandered through poor strategic choices. A key missed opportunity for Intel was not becoming an ARM licensee to pivot into lower-powered devices.
Qualcomm’s Apple Silicon Strategy
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  • Key Takeaway: Qualcomm is leveraging the expertise of former Apple Silicon designers, acquired via Nuvia, to compete effectively in the Windows market.
  • Summary: Qualcomm is now a major player in Windows machines with Copilot Plus PCs, mirroring Apple’s success in power-to-performance ratios. This shift is largely due to Qualcomm acquiring Nuvia, a company founded by key creators of Apple Silicon. This mirrors Apple’s own strategy of acquiring PA Semi, which formed the basis for the A-Series chips.
Apple’s AI and Siri Future
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  • Key Takeaway: Apple has a major opportunity to lead in local AI inference using its dedicated hardware and unified memory, despite rumored reliance on Google’s Gemini for Siri.
  • Summary: Apple is reportedly spending a billion dollars annually to use a white-labeled, Apple data center-run version of Google’s Gemini model to fortify Siri. The speakers emphasize that Apple’s hardware, featuring dedicated AI circuitry and unified memory, positions them well for local AI inference tasks. The historical context of early iPhone partnerships with Google, including default apps, is noted before discussing the current AI collaboration.
DeepMind’s 3D World Training
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  • Key Takeaway: Google DeepMind is using the SEMA research project, training agents within commercial games like Goat Simulator 3, to improve AI understanding of physical 3D worlds.
  • Summary: SEMA (Scalable, Instructable, Multi-world Agent) utilizes game environments like Goat Simulator, Valheim, and Minecraft to train AI agents beyond language-based understanding. This approach aims to teach models about physical world interactions, addressing limitations of LLMs that lack understanding of physics. The project involves partnerships with game developers like Coffee Stain and Hello Games, potentially accelerating 3D world creation for VR/AR.
Wearable Tech and Social Acceptance
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  • Key Takeaway: The aesthetic and perceived intent of personal robots and smart rings influence public acceptance, contrasting Japanese ‘friendly’ robots with Western ’terminator’ designs.
  • Summary: The Moflin, a small, cute companion robot, contrasts with the creepy, Slenderman-like design of the $20,000 NEO home robot, suggesting consumers prefer Disneyfied or rounded designs. The discussion also touches on the social awkwardness of wearing smart rings, with one host noting people associate the black Aura Ring with being a swinger or a creep. The high annual fee for the Platinum American Express card is lamented, though a new $200 Aura Ring credit is mentioned as a benefit.
AI Agents and Inbox Management
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  • Key Takeaway: Despite the desire for AI to manage overwhelming inboxes, current AI browser agents are deemed slow, unhelpful, and potentially dangerous due to spoofing risks.
  • Summary: The speakers express a strong desire for trustworthy AI to sort and organize their massive email inboxes, but current implementations are considered unreliable and risky. Amazon is suing Perplexity for using an automated browser (Comet) to shop, which Amazon claims violates terms of service by botting and potentially capturing valuable purchasing data. This highlights the ongoing conflict between automated web interaction and platform control over customer data.
Vention AI Engineering Sponsorship
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  • Key Takeaway: Vention offers AI-enabled engineering teams to accelerate software development, promising clients at least a 15% efficiency boost through real engineering discipline.
  • Summary: Vention leverages over 20 years of global engineering expertise to help businesses integrate AI into software development, aiming for faster, cleaner, and calmer processes. They recommend starting with interactive AI workshops to find practical, safe ways to use AI in delivery and QA. Vention assists CTOs and tech leads in assessing AI readiness and outlining steps to scale prototypes without disrupting existing systems.
Lucas Museum of Narrative Art Opening
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  • Key Takeaway: George Lucas’s Lucas Museum of Narrative Art, dedicated to illustrated storytelling, is set to open in Los Angeles on September 22nd next year.
  • Summary: The museum has been in development for a decade, moving locations multiple times before settling on its final opening date. It will house 40,000 works of narrative art, including the Lucas archives with props and concept art, alongside pieces from creatives like Norman Rockwell and Frida Kahlo. The galleries will feature themes such as family, childhood, sports, and adventure.
Spotify AI Audiobook Recaps
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  • Key Takeaway: Spotify introduced an AI-generated audiobook recap feature for users who fall asleep while listening.
  • Summary: This new feature automatically summarizes the story so far, which is useful for listeners who stop listening mid-chapter or mid-sleep. Some hosts noted they do not use Spotify for audiobooks, preferring Audible or Libro FM, especially since Spotify’s family plans often restrict audiobook access to the primary user.
PNG Specification Update
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  • Key Takeaway: The W3C has updated the PNG specification to include HDR support and preserve EXIF data, which was previously stripped when converting from formats like DMG.
  • Summary: The updated PNG specification now supports High Dynamic Range (HDR), a feature requested by television vendors who use PNGs for graphics and lower thirds. Crucially, it will preserve EXIF data from camera files, addressing a long-standing limitation of the 20-year-old technology. The adoption is expected to be quick as all major browsers already support the format.
SeatGuru Shutdown and Travel Woes
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  • Key Takeaway: TripAdvisor acquired and subsequently shut down SeatGuru, a crowdsourced resource for checking airline seat maps and identifying undesirable seats.
  • Summary: SeatGuru allowed travelers to identify issues like lack of legroom or proximity to lavatories based on specific aircraft variations, which airlines do not disclose. Its closure has disappointed frequent travelers who relied on its crowdsourced data for optimizing long-haul flights, such as those to Rome, which often require layovers due to airport size limitations.
US Penny Production Halt
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  • Key Takeaway: The US Mint has stopped producing pennies, leaving approximately 300 billion in circulation with no official plan for their removal.
  • Summary: Pennies remain legal tender, meaning they can still be used in transactions. The segment referenced a dark joke from SNL regarding the end of the penny’s production.
Withings Health Gadgets Review
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  • Key Takeaway: Withings released the BMO, a device combining an ECG, stethoscope, and thermometer, and the U-Scan, an at-home urine lab device installed in the toilet.
  • Summary: The BMO is a single-lead ECG device that is CE cleared but awaiting FDA clearance, leading to concerns about data reliability compared to FDA-approved devices. The U-Scan uses cartridges to measure biomarkers weekly, but its shift to ‘wellness’ means it avoids rigorous FDA clearance, raising questions about its accuracy and the recurring cost of cartridges. The discussion highlighted the general trend toward increasingly invasive personal health monitoring.
Health Data Privacy and Insurance Concerns
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  • Key Takeaway: Sharing health data collected by wearables with third-party apps forfeits HIPAA protection, and there is significant concern that insurance companies may soon require sharing this data for coverage determination.
  • Summary: Data collected via FDA-cleared medical devices adheres to HIPAA, but integrating that data with non-medical third-party apps voids that protection. The hosts worry that as insurance companies adopt wellness programs, they might mandate data sharing, turning health monitoring into a requirement for obtaining insurance rather than just a path to discounts. This commodification of health data is seen as fundamentally problematic.
Navigating US Healthcare System
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  • Key Takeaway: The US healthcare system often prioritizes cost-saving statistics over individual patient needs, requiring privileged patients to actively advocate or even manipulate the system to receive timely diagnostic care like MRIs.
  • Summary: The host shared a personal experience where access to necessary imaging for a severe back issue was delayed by weeks due to systemic bottlenecks and cost considerations, necessitating an ER visit to force action. Doctors sometimes advise against proactive testing (like PSA tests) because the resulting treatment might be worse than the condition itself, reflecting a profit-motive influence on medical decisions.
Club TWiT Membership Drive
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  • Key Takeaway: Club TWiT membership now covers 25% of operating costs, supporting shows like the upcoming D&D adventure ‘Horror in the Cornfield’ led by Micah Sargent.
  • Summary: Club TWiT members receive ad-free shows, access to a members-only Discord, and special events, including a Dungeons & Dragons session scheduled for Monday. The hosts strongly encouraged listeners to join to help sustain the current level of production.