Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend

Kevin Nealon Returns Once More

February 9, 2026

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  • Conan and Kevin Nealon engage in a meta-discussion about their similar personalities, suggesting they are 'the same person' who are polar opposites, which explains their dynamic. 
  • Kevin Nealon recounts a moment on a talk show where he felt betrayed by Conan incorporating a required pharmaceutical commercial disclaimer into a personal health discussion. 
  • The conversation humorously explores alternative career paths for Conan and Kevin Nealon if they lost their performing arts jobs, landing on Costco employment for Nealon and institutionalization for Conan. 

Segments

U.S. Bank Smartly Card Ad Read
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(00:00:02)
  • Key Takeaway: The U.S. Bank Smartly Visa Signature Card offers an unlimited 2% cash back on every purchase without requiring quarterly activations or category tracking.
  • Summary: The card provides a flat rate of 2% cash back on all spending. Listeners can learn more by visiting usbank.com/slash smartly card. The creditor and issuer is U.S. Bank National Association.
Macy’s V-Day Gifting Ad Read
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  • Key Takeaway: Macy’s offers curated, ready-to-go Valentine’s Day gifts from brands like Le Creuset, Rolex, and Godiva.
  • Summary: Macy’s aims to simplify V-Day gifting for partners, friends, and family, even when time is short. Options range from diamond hoops to luxury items. Shoppers can use Macy’s V-Day gift guide online for inspiration.
Kevin Nealon’s Opening Statement
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  • Key Takeaway: Kevin Nealon opened the episode by stating he feels ’nothing at all’ about being Conan O’Brien’s friend, claiming he is ‘dead inside.’
  • Summary: This opening line directly references the episode title’s theme regarding the friendship status between the two comedians. The statement sets a tone of mock emotional detachment for the guest. This segment immediately follows the theme song.
Hypothetical Joblessness Discussion
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  • Key Takeaway: Conan O’Brien expressed serious doubt that he could secure any job in the general workforce based solely on his current skills, believing he would starve without his entertainment career leverage.
  • Summary: Conan questioned his viability in a non-performing arts job if his public recognition was removed. He speculated that Kevin Nealon might fare better as a history teacher due to his knowledge base. The segment concluded with a humorous hypothetical about Conan trying to teach while wearing a bag over his head.
Sona’s Career De-evolution
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  • Key Takeaway: Conan accused Sona of rapidly ‘rotting’ and falling apart professionally after gaining exposure through the podcast and network events, suggesting her initial hard-working nature diminished.
  • Summary: Conan framed the hypothetical joblessness exercise to question Sona’s ability to function outside entertainment, noting her perceived decline since meeting her. Sona countered by blaming Conan, stating her job became solely being fodder for his comedic bits. This exchange established a playful blame dynamic regarding their professional habits.
Introduction and Special Promotion
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  • Key Takeaway: Kevin Nealon’s new stand-up special, “Loose in the Crotch,” is available on YouTube on January 27th.
  • Summary: Conan introduced Nealon, noting the podcast derails when he appears, calling it a ‘beautiful disaster.’ Nealon confirmed his special’s title and release details. The conversation then immediately returned to their established dynamic of playful antagonism.
Origin of ‘Loose in the Crotch’
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  • Key Takeaway: The title ‘Loose in the Crotch’ originated from a beloved cat named Pierre who loved sitting on Nealon’s favorite, perfectly fitting pair of jeans.
  • Summary: Nealon explained that the jeans were snug in the hips and butt but loose in the crotch, a fit he loved. When the cat died ten years ago, Nealon wrapped him in the jeans for burial, a decision he now regrets because he misses the jeans more than the cat. The cat was humorously stated to be buried in Arlington with full military honors.
SNL 50th Anniversary McCartney Incident
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  • Key Takeaway: Kevin Nealon admitted to intentionally ‘cock-blocking’ Conan O’Brien by interrupting his conversation with Paul McCartney at the SNL 50th anniversary event as an act of revenge for past interruptions.
  • Summary: Nealon felt he was being ignored by others at the event, mirroring past slights he experienced, prompting him to take over the conversation with McCartney. Nealon then fabricated a story about McCartney offering him a spot in a new band, which was immediately followed by a bizarre ghost story involving The Beatles and Harry Belafonte. McCartney eventually dismissed Nealon by introducing him to ‘his nephew’ (a group of executives) and walking away.
Caricature Art and New Store
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  • Key Takeaway: Kevin Nealon has a successful career in creating caricatures, and listeners can now purchase his artwork, including a new one of Conan, at KevinNealonArt.com.
  • Summary: Conan praised Nealon’s talent for caricatures, noting Nealon’s self-caricature is his caller ID image. Nealon mentioned sketching Conan frequently during their early Saturday Night Live days, even drawing a picture of Conan’s shoe that he claims is now in MoMA. Nealon confirmed he opened a Shopify store for selling his art.
Mutual Insecurities and Sit-ups
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  • Key Takeaway: Conan suggested Kevin Nealon has trouble accepting his own success, leading Conan to stop ‘rooting’ for him because he seems like a ’lost cause’ in that regard.
  • Summary: The discussion pivoted to personal insecurities, with Conan noting Nealon’s inability to relax into his success. They bonded over the shared, futile pursuit of a six-pack, with Conan admitting he only achieved a ‘one-pack’ that turned out to be an inflamed liver. Conan then asked to show a picture of his former ‘physical specimen’ body.
Self-Reflection and Razor Blades
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  • Key Takeaway: Conan and Kevin Nealon analyze their dynamic as being two sides of the same coin, reflecting each other’s flaws.
  • Summary: The speakers conclude that their interactions are strange because they are essentially pointing out flaws in each other that are inherent to themselves. This mutual reflection is likened to a ‘Fight Club’ scenario where they might not realize the other persona exists. They maintain emotional walls because accepting this similarity means accepting an uncomfortable truth about their own worth.
SNL History and Self-Rooting
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  • Key Takeaway: Conan reveals he named Kevin Nealon as his favorite SNL cast member during his initial interview with Lorne Michaels.
  • Summary: Conan shares a story from his early SNL interview where he named Kevin Nealon as his favorite cast member, which Lorne Michaels reacted to ambiguously. This preference is explained as seeing something in Nealon that resonated with Conan’s own internal state from his early twenties. Both men desire external validation (rooting) from the other because they struggle to root for themselves.
Spam Memory and Interruption Style
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  • Key Takeaway: Kevin Nealon has a distinct childhood memory comparing cooking Spam to his own freckled arm, contrasting with Conan’s tendency to interrupt profound moments.
  • Summary: Kevin Nealon recalls a specific memory from summer camp where he saw a visual similarity between frying Spam and his own red, freckled arm. Conan humorously interrupts this moment, comparing his tendency to cut off profound thoughts to interrupting Einstein’s theory of relativity with a question about bidets.
Hiking with Kevin Drone Critique
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  • Key Takeaway: Conan criticizes Kevin Nealon’s excessive and unimpressive use of drone footage in the ‘Hiking with Kevin’ YouTube series.
  • Summary: Conan points out that Kevin Nealon devoted significant time to capturing drone shots during their hikes that were only taken from ’ladder height’ and were unimpressive. Nealon exhibited separation anxiety from the drone, keeping it too close, while Bill Burr reportedly enjoyed the drone footage.
Pharmaceutical Ad Betrayal
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  • Key Takeaway: Conan felt betrayed when Kevin Nealon seamlessly integrated a mandatory pharmaceutical ad disclaimer into a serious conversation about his AFib diagnosis.
  • Summary: During a previous appearance, Conan asked about Nealon’s health (AFib), only for Nealon to look into the camera and deliver a required line to get paid for a commercial. Nealon confirmed he had to include the line, ‘check with your doctor,’ or forfeit payment, which Conan found creepy and a betrayal of their friendship.
Alternative Career Paths
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  • Key Takeaway: If forced out of performing arts, Kevin Nealon would realistically seek employment at Costco due to its reputation for good employee benefits.
  • Summary: When asked about non-performing arts jobs, Kevin Nealon seriously suggested working at Costco because he perceives the employees as happy and the company offers good benefits. Conan’s alternative, if teaching was excluded, was interior design consultation, while Conan suggested Nealon would make a good, non-corruptible local politician.