
Personal News! Jasmine Answers All Your Questions About Balancing Pregnancy #2 And Running A Business
July 29, 2025
Key Takeaways
- Founders can navigate significant life events like pregnancy and new parenthood by strategically planning business operations, leveraging team support, and adjusting event timelines to maintain business continuity and personal well-being.
- The experience of managing a business while raising children differs significantly between the first and subsequent children, with later experiences often benefiting from established systems, a supportive team, and a clearer understanding of personal capacity.
- Successful business ownership alongside family growth often relies on a robust support system, including family, nannies, or daycare, and requires honest self-assessment of personal boundaries and desired work-life balance.
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Pregnancy Symptoms & Business Support (00:01:48)
- Key Takeaway: Having a stronger team in place significantly mitigates the impact of severe pregnancy symptoms on business operations, allowing for continued functionality even when the founder is incapacitated.
- Summary: Jasmine discusses her current pregnancy symptoms, noting they are better than her first, but still require medication. She highlights the crucial role of her team, including Natalie, in keeping the business running smoothly during her difficult first trimester.
Maternity Leave Approach (00:03:19)
- Key Takeaway: Founders with their own businesses often cannot take traditional extended maternity leave due to the risk of business collapse, necessitating a more integrated approach to stepping back while maintaining some level of involvement.
- Summary: The discussion shifts to maternity leave. Jasmine explains she won’t take a traditional leave but will step back for a few months, remaining involved in tasks like approving content and staying on Slack, while ensuring content is pre-scheduled.
Business Adjustments for Baby Two (00:06:00)
- Key Takeaway: Learning from past experiences, founders can proactively adjust business operations, such as scheduling major events like summits before the expected arrival of a new baby, to create a buffer and reduce post-birth work pressures.
- Summary: Jasmine reflects on what she would do differently this time around, specifically mentioning moving the business’s summit event earlier to avoid having major external commitments in the immediate postpartum period, unlike her experience with her first child.
Gender Reveal & Naming (00:08:29)
- Key Takeaway: The host reveals she is expecting a baby girl, a surprise to her interviewer, and while she has a name in mind, she is keeping it a secret.
- Summary: A highly anticipated question about the baby’s gender is addressed. Jasmine reveals it’s a girl, admitting she was initially disappointed when she thought it was a boy. She also confirms she has a name but won’t share it.
Building Business with Two Children (00:10:36)
- Key Takeaway: While acknowledging the inherent nervousness of balancing business with a newborn and an older child, founders can find reassurance and practical strategies by studying the experiences and support systems of other successful female entrepreneurs.
- Summary: Jasmine expresses nervousness about managing the business with two children, contrasting it with the first child experience where she had more flexibility due to the baby’s sleep schedule. She finds inspiration and a sense of possibility by looking at other founders who have navigated similar situations.
Separation Anxiety & Travel (00:13:53)
- Key Takeaway: As children grow, parents may experience increased emotional difficulty with extended separations, necessitating careful consideration of travel plans and childcare arrangements when bringing a new baby into the mix.
- Summary: Jasmine shares that this current trip to New York, being nearly two weeks long, is the first time she’s felt significant sadness leaving her son, Sebastian, behind, highlighting a shift in her emotional experience as he gets older and understands her absence.
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[00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:02.720] Hey business vesties, welcome back to Female Founder World.
[00:00:02.720 --> 00:00:03.520] I'm Jasmine.
[00:00:03.520 --> 00:00:05.200] I'm the host of the show.
[00:00:05.360 --> 00:00:06.800] We've got a bit of a different episode today.
[00:00:06.800 --> 00:00:14.160] I've got Natalie on the team and she's here to ask me a few questions about a bit of an announcement.
[00:00:14.160 --> 00:01:48.600] I am pregnant with baby number two and I've had a lot of questions come in on Instagram since I announced it and I wanted to take the opportunity to answer all of those questions about like the pregnancy and baby stuff but also maternity leave what I'm thinking about as someone who is doing this for the second time and what we're thinking about with the business and how we're going to manage it because I know so many people are also thinking about this whether or not you're actually planning on having a baby anytime soon I feel like for a lot of us it's in the back of our head like how we're going to do it yeah oh this is my favorite kind of episode you have questions oh I have so many questions do you have questions from the community or just your podcast we want to know when you're due okay so I'm due in late november well mid to late November Sebastian was two weeks late so baby number one was two weeks late so I feel like this one will be late too I'm not sharing the exact date because it drove me like actually mad last time when I just all of the really well-meaning messages and then also because I'm sharing this on like Instagram and TikTok and like whatever with a bigger audience I was just getting it wasn't just friends and family it was like everyone saying any news how are you doing and when you are just so ready to not be pregnant anymore like it took every inch of self-control not to snap back which is such a stupid reaction to people just being caring so i'm not sharing the date this time just my own sanity no i that's fair because if i go like 10 days over again it's just too long yeah, 100%, especially when you have a platform, yeah, yeah.
[00:01:48.600 --> 00:01:49.640] But how are you feeling?
[00:01:49.640 --> 00:01:50.680] I'm feeling pretty good now.
[00:01:50.680 --> 00:01:56.520] You know how bad the first few months were, and also, I feel very lucky that i had more of a team this time with Sebastian.
[00:01:56.520 --> 00:01:59.560] It was just paige, really oh my gosh, yeah, yeah.
[00:01:59.560 --> 00:02:04.680] And now there's so many more of you, and I have you who is like, you know, right-hand doing everything.
[00:02:04.680 --> 00:02:11.320] Because those first three months, I well, actually, more than that, it was like 15 weeks, I guess.
[00:02:11.320 --> 00:02:14.920] I was in bed, like I lost 10% of my body weight.
[00:02:14.920 --> 00:02:17.880] I was able to eat maybe like three crackers a day.
[00:02:17.880 --> 00:02:19.320] I was not keeping down fluids.
[00:02:19.320 --> 00:02:22.440] I was on, you know, and that is with a lot of medication.
[00:02:22.440 --> 00:02:24.040] But things are a lot better now.
[00:02:24.040 --> 00:02:29.640] I was really similar with Sebastian, so I was expecting it, but you definitely forget how bad it is.
[00:02:29.640 --> 00:02:31.640] But things are definitely a lot better now.
[00:02:31.640 --> 00:02:35.640] I'm still on a lot of medication for nausea, but I've like put the weight back on.
[00:02:35.640 --> 00:02:40.200] I've been able to eat, you know, not normally, but okay.
[00:02:41.320 --> 00:02:43.000] And I'm feeling pretty good.
[00:02:43.880 --> 00:02:46.040] Yes, I can travel for Jasmine.
[00:02:46.120 --> 00:02:47.480] She was not good.
[00:02:47.720 --> 00:02:48.520] Not doing well.
[00:02:48.520 --> 00:02:48.920] No.
[00:02:48.920 --> 00:02:50.200] But we kept everything up and running.
[00:02:50.360 --> 00:02:50.680] We did.
[00:02:50.840 --> 00:02:53.160] We really did so well.
[00:02:53.160 --> 00:02:54.440] You guys did so well.
[00:02:54.440 --> 00:02:55.240] I'm so proud.
[00:02:55.240 --> 00:02:57.320] I mean, our fearless leader.
[00:02:57.320 --> 00:02:58.600] You were like, no problem.
[00:02:58.920 --> 00:03:00.040] Like, non-responsive.
[00:03:00.440 --> 00:03:02.120] No, you were still on.
[00:03:02.360 --> 00:03:03.480] I mean, barely.
[00:03:03.560 --> 00:03:04.040] Are you?
[00:03:04.040 --> 00:03:04.600] Okay.
[00:03:04.600 --> 00:03:05.240] Barely.
[00:03:05.240 --> 00:03:05.640] Yeah.
[00:03:05.800 --> 00:03:08.040] We didn't have a call for like two months.
[00:03:08.120 --> 00:03:08.520] That was weird.
[00:03:08.520 --> 00:03:08.760] Yeah.
[00:03:09.720 --> 00:03:10.040] Yeah.
[00:03:10.280 --> 00:03:14.520] It was like the occasional slack voice note, but yeah, that was bad.
[00:03:14.520 --> 00:03:14.920] Yeah.
[00:03:14.920 --> 00:03:15.240] All right.
[00:03:15.240 --> 00:03:18.280] Let me check and see what other community questions we have.
[00:03:18.280 --> 00:03:19.400] Oh, this is a good one.
[00:03:19.400 --> 00:03:21.400] Will you take maternity leave this time?
[00:03:21.400 --> 00:03:22.920] I know you didn't really, what's up?
[00:03:24.840 --> 00:03:25.400] No.
[00:03:25.400 --> 00:03:33.000] So I'm not taking, I'm not taking maternity leave in the way that you would like traditionally think of it.
[00:03:33.560 --> 00:03:37.880] And people have thoughts and reactions and bring their own stuff to that.
[00:03:38.200 --> 00:03:49.840] I am someone who I really like my work and I didn't, I had an amazing experience when Sebastian was born during those newborn like weeks and months.
[00:03:50.480 --> 00:03:53.280] Just like I didn't have the identity crisis.
[00:03:53.280 --> 00:03:56.160] I didn't have like I felt really good.
[00:03:56.160 --> 00:05:20.760] I just felt like there was more in my life that I loved and that I wanted to do and I felt stretched but I just yeah I felt like there was more in my life that I loved and that I wanted to do and I still wanted to do work but in saying that I was obviously like not producing content every day and like not on camera and there is planning that needs to happen so that I can take a step back but I still you know intend to be on slack and like checking emails and and approving content and those kind of things but it's just gonna take like organization from all of us to make sure that we've got six weeks of podcasts scheduled and that kind of that kind of content ready to go so that I can be more relaxed but you know my friends in Australia it's really common to take six months to 12 months maternity leave totally off really and that we need yeah that's like that is standard in Australia and then I come to it from the you know someone who's lived in York for 10 years and my friends here are taking like three months it's much different and I think if you've got your own business it is actually impossible to not turn up to work like that's just not an option there wouldn't be a business for me to come back to unfortunately if I stepped away for six months like what would a lot can happen in six months a lot can happen in six months like it's just this business is my first baby, it is my vision I don't I don't want to step away from it.
[00:05:20.760 --> 00:05:23.720] And we're not just, we're not big enough yet for me to be able to do that.
[00:05:23.720 --> 00:05:25.320] There's not enough people on the team.
[00:05:25.800 --> 00:05:46.200] So, no, I won't be taking official maternity leave um but I will be stepping back a little bit for a couple of months and then trying to rope in some kind of patchwork childcare situation, whether that is my mum moving in or roping in my mother-in-law and getting family to help, which we're so, so lucky to be able to have.
[00:05:46.680 --> 00:05:54.920] Because if the option was, you know, putting a three-month-old in daycare or going to, you know, or going back to work, like I would really struggle with that.
[00:05:54.920 --> 00:05:59.080] But because I've got family as an option, I think that just makes things easier.
[00:05:59.080 --> 00:06:00.120] Absolutely.
[00:06:00.120 --> 00:06:05.800] A good follow-up question to that is: what would you do differently this time around in terms of the business?
[00:06:06.840 --> 00:06:09.560] Also, things have changed so much since you had Seb.
[00:06:09.560 --> 00:06:15.720] Last time, oh my God, when I had Sebastian, so we hadn't done a summit yet, had we?
[00:06:15.720 --> 00:06:17.400] No, because he was tiny, tiny.
[00:06:17.720 --> 00:06:18.600] Yes, that's right.
[00:06:18.600 --> 00:06:19.880] Oh, he was.
[00:06:19.880 --> 00:06:21.000] But was he even what?
[00:06:21.480 --> 00:06:22.280] No, he wasn't one.
[00:06:22.760 --> 00:06:24.280] No, no, no, he wasn't one.
[00:06:24.280 --> 00:06:24.920] You're so right.
[00:06:24.920 --> 00:06:25.320] Oh, wow.
[00:06:25.320 --> 00:06:26.840] That's gone so quickly.
[00:06:26.840 --> 00:06:31.480] He, yeah, so I would, what I would do differently.
[00:06:31.800 --> 00:06:37.080] I had an event five weeks after Sebastian was born.
[00:06:37.080 --> 00:06:41.880] We did a full takeover of the Museum of Ice Cream and it was for International Women's Day.
[00:06:41.880 --> 00:06:42.520] And it was great.
[00:06:42.520 --> 00:06:43.400] Like, it was really fun.
[00:06:43.400 --> 00:06:45.480] But it was the first kind of like biggish event that we did.
[00:06:45.480 --> 00:06:50.360] It's nowhere near like what we do for Summit, but it was still, I think we had like 400 people.
[00:06:50.360 --> 00:06:51.720] You know, it was a great event.
[00:06:51.720 --> 00:06:55.720] It was, but it was like, I shouldn't have, I shouldn't have done that.
[00:06:55.720 --> 00:06:58.040] Like with hindsight, I shouldn't have done that.
[00:06:58.040 --> 00:06:59.160] But the opportunity was there.
[00:06:59.160 --> 00:07:00.840] They offered us the space for free.
[00:07:00.840 --> 00:07:03.720] The community wanted to come like you had a great turnout totally.
[00:07:03.720 --> 00:07:06.120] We hit capacity on tickets like immediately.
[00:07:06.120 --> 00:07:07.960] Like it took a couple of days.
[00:07:07.960 --> 00:07:11.320] And I was just excited and I wanted to follow the momentum of the business.
[00:07:11.320 --> 00:07:31.200] And I think in those early days, if you have momentum and if you've tried businesses before that didn't have momentum you know what it feels like and you don't want to let that opportunity pass you by and so i was just so i didn't want to i didn't want to say no to anything at that stage whereas this time knowing what I know, we've brought Summit forward.
[00:07:31.200 --> 00:07:34.160] So Summit is happening on the 5th of October.
[00:07:34.160 --> 00:07:47.280] So, you know, unless like the baby is really, really, really early, which would be like its own huge issue if the baby was this early, I should be able to have a bit of a buffer after we host this really big event where we don't have that in-person stuff.
[00:07:47.280 --> 00:07:54.880] We should have all of the, all of the loose threads tied up and we can have like a little bit of a breather in terms of in-person programming.
[00:07:54.880 --> 00:08:04.400] So that's probably the main thing I would have is like, I don't want to be answerable to like partners and sponsors and those big external calls in like the weeks afterwards.
[00:08:04.400 --> 00:08:07.440] I just want to be like communicating with you guys and doing the fun creative stuff.
[00:08:07.440 --> 00:08:09.040] I think that's super smart.
[00:08:09.040 --> 00:08:09.360] Yeah.
[00:08:09.360 --> 00:08:23.040] Because otherwise like you just end up, you end up needing to kind of cancel things or things are unpredictable and you're disappointed in yourself and it's just easier just to give yourself like the space and the grace, I think.
[00:08:23.040 --> 00:08:24.000] 100%.
[00:08:24.080 --> 00:08:25.760] Yeah, like looking ahead.
[00:08:25.760 --> 00:08:27.680] And now you have the luxury to do so.
[00:08:27.680 --> 00:08:28.080] Yes.
[00:08:29.040 --> 00:08:29.520] Yes.
[00:08:29.520 --> 00:08:36.720] A big question from the community and selfishly the question that I want to know the answer to is do you know the gender?
[00:08:36.720 --> 00:08:38.560] I can't believe I haven't told you this yet.
[00:08:38.560 --> 00:08:38.880] I know.
[00:08:38.880 --> 00:08:40.080] We're live guys.
[00:08:40.560 --> 00:08:41.120] What do you think?
[00:08:41.120 --> 00:08:42.000] What's your guess?
[00:08:42.000 --> 00:08:42.720] Oh, I don't know.
[00:08:42.720 --> 00:08:44.000] I'm so bad at this.
[00:08:44.000 --> 00:08:45.760] We should have done our own gender reveal.
[00:08:45.760 --> 00:08:46.560] Oh, we should have.
[00:08:46.800 --> 00:08:48.560] I did one with my friends as well.
[00:08:48.560 --> 00:08:49.280] Oh, you did.
[00:08:49.280 --> 00:08:52.480] They just, oh, I don't know drawers.
[00:08:54.080 --> 00:08:55.360] Is it a girl?
[00:08:55.360 --> 00:08:55.760] Yeah.
[00:08:58.320 --> 00:10:36.320] I know i know i know that's so exciting oh my gosh that's amazing so how was your gender reveal i didn't do a full i didn't do a full gender reveal i'll show you the video afterwards it's really cute maybe maybe i'll post it if steve lets me as well um we just like we just found out in the blood test that we got from the doctor so we i just filmed us like looking you know reading the results and i thought the baby was a girl like i just had you know and then i had my like 12-week scan and the doctor was like oh i think i can see something and if they can see something it's a boy right and so then i just and i felt a little bit disappointed which is such a stupid reaction but like that is my that was the honest reaction that's valid and it is genuinely like you would never be disappointed when the baby actually comes but yeah that was my reaction so then i tried to like talk myself out of it and i was like oh no no no it's a boy it's a boy but yeah girl a girl's girl yeah so fun oh no what a beautiful girl that will be i also want to know and the community wants to know do you have a name yeah i'm not telling you though i'm not telling you that is the one thing that is my secret that's fair i would probably do the same but i've only got one girl's name i've always had a good like that's what sebastian was going to be if he was a girl like if there's one name oh wow i know you won't guess it i'm not guessing no way all right i won't even try are you nervous about building the business with two and also having a newborn again like what your feelings going yes i definitely i think i'm still in a bit of denial about it to be honest, it's actually like some, it's somewhat easier going in with the first because you don't really know what you're in for.
[00:10:36.320 --> 00:10:49.840] And I found the baby month so much easier than, like, you know, now we're at least in a in a rhythm, we've got proper child care, like he's in, he's got daycare, and so you can carve out those dedicated work hours.
[00:10:49.840 --> 00:10:56.480] But with a baby, you have the flexibility because they sleep all the time, and like they don't really need you to be interacting with them.
[00:10:56.480 --> 00:11:03.200] So I could get so much more done without feeling like I was away from the baby.
[00:11:03.200 --> 00:11:07.520] Whereas now I'm kind of, I know what I'm in for.
[00:11:07.520 --> 00:11:13.520] Like, I know that the baby is going to become the toddler that's going to become this thing that like requires all of you know all of your attention.
[00:11:13.520 --> 00:11:17.760] And so I am nervous when I let myself think about it.
[00:11:17.760 --> 00:11:19.280] But I do think it is really helpful.
[00:11:19.280 --> 00:11:20.960] I look at examples of other people who have done it.
[00:11:20.960 --> 00:11:26.560] And I actually do this with any time I want to try something new that I find a little bit daunting.
[00:11:26.560 --> 00:11:28.240] I'm like, okay, who else has done it?
[00:11:28.240 --> 00:11:30.080] That is someone that I can resonate with.
[00:11:30.080 --> 00:11:32.160] And I look at Allison from Poppy.
[00:11:32.160 --> 00:11:33.280] She had four.
[00:11:33.440 --> 00:11:36.160] I think she had four while building that business.
[00:11:36.160 --> 00:11:38.800] And like, I'm not building a billion-dollar company.
[00:11:38.800 --> 00:11:39.200] Maybe.
[00:11:39.200 --> 00:11:39.680] I don't think so.
[00:11:40.640 --> 00:11:41.280] You never know.
[00:11:41.280 --> 00:11:43.440] But like, she can do that.
[00:11:43.760 --> 00:11:46.080] Then that just makes it feel a bit more doable.
[00:11:46.080 --> 00:11:48.720] Barbara from Ceremonia, she has four.
[00:11:49.200 --> 00:11:55.120] And her first pregnancy, she raised money for the company and launched during that pregnancy.
[00:11:55.120 --> 00:11:57.680] She's the twins, like, you know, she did it.
[00:11:57.680 --> 00:11:58.880] Cindy Romero, she has two.
[00:11:59.920 --> 00:12:02.640] I mean, we say it all the time, but it's truly.
[00:12:03.280 --> 00:12:10.080] Also, you also need to have very honest conversations with these women and other women about what their care setup is.
[00:12:10.080 --> 00:12:10.400] That's true.
[00:12:10.480 --> 00:12:12.800] And like, Barbara is like, she does post about that a lot.
[00:12:12.800 --> 00:12:15.760] I don't know what Allison's situation is, but I am going to ask her.
[00:12:16.160 --> 00:12:22.640] You need to know what their care setup is because it can be, it can look very much like, oh, they're doing it, they're doing everything and whatever.
[00:12:22.640 --> 00:12:26.720] But it's like, how much time are they getting with their children?
[00:12:26.720 --> 00:12:28.800] Are they happy with that balance?
[00:12:28.800 --> 00:12:30.760] Do they need a nanny?
[00:12:30.760 --> 00:12:32.360] Do they have someone that lives in?
[00:12:32.360 --> 00:12:33.640] Do they have daycare?
[00:12:33.640 --> 00:12:38.680] Do they have a mum or a dad that comes in, like a grandparent that can support?
[00:12:38.680 --> 00:12:39.640] What does it look like?
[00:12:39.640 --> 00:12:41.480] And is that something that I want to?
[00:12:41.480 --> 00:12:41.800] Yeah.
[00:12:41.800 --> 00:12:49.320] You know, like I think if I see examples of people who have care setups that don't feel right to me, then like that's not expansive.
[00:12:49.320 --> 00:12:52.120] You need to find people who are doing it in a way that like feels comfortable for you.
[00:12:52.120 --> 00:12:55.320] Yeah, I'm also curious about people's commutes.
[00:12:55.320 --> 00:12:56.840] You know, are they going into an office?
[00:12:57.080 --> 00:12:58.520] Are they leading team meetings?
[00:12:58.520 --> 00:13:00.360] Are they entirely remote?
[00:13:00.360 --> 00:13:04.920] It just really varies and also depends on the city and where you are in the world.
[00:13:04.920 --> 00:13:05.400] Yeah.
[00:13:05.400 --> 00:13:07.480] So it's like another factor that just adds a layer.
[00:13:07.800 --> 00:13:08.200] Totally.
[00:13:08.520 --> 00:13:13.960] So I'm nervous, but I'm also like a bit delusional and enjoying looking at other people who've done it, thinking it'll be fine.
[00:13:13.960 --> 00:13:14.440] It'll be fine.
[00:13:14.520 --> 00:13:16.520] It's a good way to go, in my opinion.
[00:13:16.520 --> 00:13:18.520] I have all the faith in the world that'll be excellent.
[00:13:18.520 --> 00:13:20.520] And you've built, we've grown so much.
[00:13:20.520 --> 00:13:20.760] Yeah.
[00:13:20.920 --> 00:13:21.880] That was Warren.
[00:13:21.880 --> 00:13:22.200] Yeah.
[00:13:22.200 --> 00:13:24.360] So it's pretty limitless.
[00:13:24.360 --> 00:13:26.680] Like it's going to be great.
[00:13:26.680 --> 00:13:30.200] And we only really got child care, proper child care for Sebastian after he was one.
[00:13:30.200 --> 00:13:33.800] Like that first year, like he just came along with us.
[00:13:34.040 --> 00:13:35.880] You know, true, he was at everything.
[00:13:35.880 --> 00:13:37.000] He just came along.
[00:13:37.000 --> 00:13:38.120] But he's very well behaved.
[00:13:38.120 --> 00:13:39.160] So he's not anymore.
[00:13:39.160 --> 00:13:39.560] He won't.
[00:13:39.560 --> 00:13:39.800] Oh, no.
[00:13:39.960 --> 00:13:40.440] Yeah, yeah.
[00:13:41.080 --> 00:13:44.440] Well, they start walking and talking, and then you're like, oh.
[00:13:45.320 --> 00:13:53.400] And you also said that this trip, we're here in New York right now, and Jasmine's have had a whirlwind of a trip the past two days traveling around.
[00:13:53.400 --> 00:13:57.400] And you said it's the first time you've really felt like so sick leaving him behind.
[00:13:57.880 --> 00:14:01.000] Like when he was younger, I feel like it was a little bit of a different.
[00:14:01.400 --> 00:14:06.280] I also didn't spend, like, I haven't spent this long away from him before.
[00:14:06.320 --> 00:14:12.360] Um, so you know, I've talked about this on Instagram a little bit, but if, you know, obviously, not every friend who listens to the podcast follows me there.
[00:14:12.360 --> 00:14:16.720] But we have, um, we're trying to like figure out what home is going to be.
[00:14:16.720 --> 00:14:18.880] And so, right now, we've got this Airbnb in Sydney.
[00:14:14.840 --> 00:14:21.600] We still have our apartment in New York, which is on and off, rented out.
[00:14:21.920 --> 00:14:23.920] And I am flying to New York all the time.
[00:14:23.920 --> 00:14:25.920] Long trips, short trips.
[00:14:25.920 --> 00:14:33.120] But this one is like nearly two weeks, and that is two weeks without Sebastian.
[00:14:33.120 --> 00:14:35.520] And I've never spent that long away.
[00:14:35.520 --> 00:14:39.600] And like, that's something that I really need to think about when we have another baby as well.
[00:14:39.600 --> 00:14:41.600] Because hopefully, I'll be breastfeeding.
[00:14:41.600 --> 00:14:43.040] There's all of that to consider.
[00:14:43.040 --> 00:14:43.360] Yeah.
[00:14:43.360 --> 00:14:44.800] So I'm going to have to bring the baby with me.
[00:14:44.800 --> 00:14:48.240] That means I'm going to have to bring someone with me to help look after the baby while I'm working.
[00:14:48.240 --> 00:14:50.560] Like, it adds a layer to vacation.
[00:14:50.560 --> 00:14:51.280] Yeah, come on in.
[00:14:51.680 --> 00:14:52.240] You baby.
[00:14:52.320 --> 00:14:52.960] You used to babysit.
[00:14:54.240 --> 00:14:55.760] Yeah, I used to babysit all the time.
[00:14:55.760 --> 00:14:56.240] How young?
[00:14:57.280 --> 00:14:58.960] Little, little, like babies.
[00:14:58.960 --> 00:15:00.640] Okay, but between us, we got it.
[00:15:00.640 --> 00:15:01.520] Yeah, don't worry.
[00:15:01.520 --> 00:15:02.000] Just add it.
[00:15:02.480 --> 00:15:05.040] Just bring her my job description.
[00:15:05.440 --> 00:15:07.040] You do literally everything else.
[00:15:07.040 --> 00:15:08.880] I'm just going to rope in some childcare as well.
[00:15:08.880 --> 00:15:09.680] It's no problem.
[00:15:09.680 --> 00:15:11.760] But it does, yeah, that adds a layer of complication.
[00:15:11.760 --> 00:15:12.800] What was the question?
[00:15:12.800 --> 00:15:16.720] I was just saying that this time around, you felt sad leaving him behind.
[00:15:16.720 --> 00:15:17.280] Yes, yes.
[00:15:17.440 --> 00:15:20.560] Like once they get to that age, he knows as well.
[00:15:20.560 --> 00:15:21.520] Yeah, that's so true.
[00:15:21.520 --> 00:15:22.960] Yeah, like he really knows.
[00:15:22.960 --> 00:15:24.400] Yeah, well, you're doing a great job.
[00:15:24.400 --> 00:15:25.040] Thank you.
[00:15:25.040 --> 00:15:25.680] Any more questions?
[00:15:25.680 --> 00:15:26.240] Are we done?
[00:15:26.240 --> 00:15:26.800] That's it.
[00:15:26.800 --> 00:15:27.920] Okay, amazing.
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Prompt 2: Key Takeaways
Now please extract the key takeaways from the transcript content I provided.
Extract the most important key takeaways from this part of the conversation. Use a single sentence statement (the key takeaway) rather than milquetoast descriptions like "the hosts discuss...".
Limit the key takeaways to a maximum of 3. The key takeaways should be insightful and knowledge-additive.
IMPORTANT: Return ONLY valid JSON, no explanations or markdown. Ensure:
- All strings are properly quoted and escaped
- No trailing commas
- All braces and brackets are balanced
Format: {"key_takeaways": ["takeaway 1", "takeaway 2"]}
Prompt 3: Segments
Now identify 2-4 distinct topical segments from this part of the conversation.
For each segment, identify:
- Descriptive title (3-6 words)
- START timestamp when this topic begins (HH:MM:SS format)
- Double check that the timestamp is accurate - a timestamp will NEVER be greater than the total length of the audio
- Most important Key takeaway from that segment. Key takeaway must be specific and knowledge-additive.
- Brief summary of the discussion
IMPORTANT: The timestamp should mark when the topic/segment STARTS, not a range. Look for topic transitions and conversation shifts.
Return ONLY valid JSON. Ensure all strings are properly quoted, no trailing commas:
{
"segments": [
{
"segment_title": "Topic Discussion",
"timestamp": "01:15:30",
"key_takeaway": "main point from this segment",
"segment_summary": "brief description of what was discussed"
}
]
}
Timestamp format: HH:MM:SS (e.g., 00:05:30, 01:22:45) marking the START of each segment.
Prompt 4: Media Mentions
Now scan the transcript content I provided for ACTUAL mentions of specific media titles:
Find explicit mentions of:
- Books (with specific titles)
- Movies (with specific titles)
- TV Shows (with specific titles)
- Music/Songs (with specific titles)
DO NOT include:
- Websites, URLs, or web services
- Other podcasts or podcast names
IMPORTANT:
- Only include items explicitly mentioned by name. Do not invent titles.
- Valid categories are: "Book", "Movie", "TV Show", "Music"
- Include the exact phrase where each item was mentioned
- Find the nearest proximate timestamp where it appears in the conversation
- THE TIMESTAMP OF THE MEDIA MENTION IS IMPORTANT - DO NOT INVENT TIMESTAMPS AND DO NOT MISATTRIBUTE TIMESTAMPS
- Double check that the timestamp is accurate - a timestamp will NEVER be greater than the total length of the audio
- Timestamps are given as ranges, e.g. 01:13:42.520 --> 01:13:46.720. Use the EARLIER of the 2 timestamps in the range.
Return ONLY valid JSON. Ensure all strings are properly quoted and escaped, no trailing commas:
{
"media_mentions": [
{
"title": "Exact Title as Mentioned",
"category": "Book",
"author_artist": "N/A",
"context": "Brief context of why it was mentioned",
"context_phrase": "The exact sentence or phrase where it was mentioned",
"timestamp": "estimated time like 01:15:30"
}
]
}
If no media is mentioned, return: {"media_mentions": []}
Full Transcript
[00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:02.720] Hey business vesties, welcome back to Female Founder World.
[00:00:02.720 --> 00:00:03.520] I'm Jasmine.
[00:00:03.520 --> 00:00:05.200] I'm the host of the show.
[00:00:05.360 --> 00:00:06.800] We've got a bit of a different episode today.
[00:00:06.800 --> 00:00:14.160] I've got Natalie on the team and she's here to ask me a few questions about a bit of an announcement.
[00:00:14.160 --> 00:01:48.600] I am pregnant with baby number two and I've had a lot of questions come in on Instagram since I announced it and I wanted to take the opportunity to answer all of those questions about like the pregnancy and baby stuff but also maternity leave what I'm thinking about as someone who is doing this for the second time and what we're thinking about with the business and how we're going to manage it because I know so many people are also thinking about this whether or not you're actually planning on having a baby anytime soon I feel like for a lot of us it's in the back of our head like how we're going to do it yeah oh this is my favorite kind of episode you have questions oh I have so many questions do you have questions from the community or just your podcast we want to know when you're due okay so I'm due in late november well mid to late November Sebastian was two weeks late so baby number one was two weeks late so I feel like this one will be late too I'm not sharing the exact date because it drove me like actually mad last time when I just all of the really well-meaning messages and then also because I'm sharing this on like Instagram and TikTok and like whatever with a bigger audience I was just getting it wasn't just friends and family it was like everyone saying any news how are you doing and when you are just so ready to not be pregnant anymore like it took every inch of self-control not to snap back which is such a stupid reaction to people just being caring so i'm not sharing the date this time just my own sanity no i that's fair because if i go like 10 days over again it's just too long yeah, 100%, especially when you have a platform, yeah, yeah.
[00:01:48.600 --> 00:01:49.640] But how are you feeling?
[00:01:49.640 --> 00:01:50.680] I'm feeling pretty good now.
[00:01:50.680 --> 00:01:56.520] You know how bad the first few months were, and also, I feel very lucky that i had more of a team this time with Sebastian.
[00:01:56.520 --> 00:01:59.560] It was just paige, really oh my gosh, yeah, yeah.
[00:01:59.560 --> 00:02:04.680] And now there's so many more of you, and I have you who is like, you know, right-hand doing everything.
[00:02:04.680 --> 00:02:11.320] Because those first three months, I well, actually, more than that, it was like 15 weeks, I guess.
[00:02:11.320 --> 00:02:14.920] I was in bed, like I lost 10% of my body weight.
[00:02:14.920 --> 00:02:17.880] I was able to eat maybe like three crackers a day.
[00:02:17.880 --> 00:02:19.320] I was not keeping down fluids.
[00:02:19.320 --> 00:02:22.440] I was on, you know, and that is with a lot of medication.
[00:02:22.440 --> 00:02:24.040] But things are a lot better now.
[00:02:24.040 --> 00:02:29.640] I was really similar with Sebastian, so I was expecting it, but you definitely forget how bad it is.
[00:02:29.640 --> 00:02:31.640] But things are definitely a lot better now.
[00:02:31.640 --> 00:02:35.640] I'm still on a lot of medication for nausea, but I've like put the weight back on.
[00:02:35.640 --> 00:02:40.200] I've been able to eat, you know, not normally, but okay.
[00:02:41.320 --> 00:02:43.000] And I'm feeling pretty good.
[00:02:43.880 --> 00:02:46.040] Yes, I can travel for Jasmine.
[00:02:46.120 --> 00:02:47.480] She was not good.
[00:02:47.720 --> 00:02:48.520] Not doing well.
[00:02:48.520 --> 00:02:48.920] No.
[00:02:48.920 --> 00:02:50.200] But we kept everything up and running.
[00:02:50.360 --> 00:02:50.680] We did.
[00:02:50.840 --> 00:02:53.160] We really did so well.
[00:02:53.160 --> 00:02:54.440] You guys did so well.
[00:02:54.440 --> 00:02:55.240] I'm so proud.
[00:02:55.240 --> 00:02:57.320] I mean, our fearless leader.
[00:02:57.320 --> 00:02:58.600] You were like, no problem.
[00:02:58.920 --> 00:03:00.040] Like, non-responsive.
[00:03:00.440 --> 00:03:02.120] No, you were still on.
[00:03:02.360 --> 00:03:03.480] I mean, barely.
[00:03:03.560 --> 00:03:04.040] Are you?
[00:03:04.040 --> 00:03:04.600] Okay.
[00:03:04.600 --> 00:03:05.240] Barely.
[00:03:05.240 --> 00:03:05.640] Yeah.
[00:03:05.800 --> 00:03:08.040] We didn't have a call for like two months.
[00:03:08.120 --> 00:03:08.520] That was weird.
[00:03:08.520 --> 00:03:08.760] Yeah.
[00:03:09.720 --> 00:03:10.040] Yeah.
[00:03:10.280 --> 00:03:14.520] It was like the occasional slack voice note, but yeah, that was bad.
[00:03:14.520 --> 00:03:14.920] Yeah.
[00:03:14.920 --> 00:03:15.240] All right.
[00:03:15.240 --> 00:03:18.280] Let me check and see what other community questions we have.
[00:03:18.280 --> 00:03:19.400] Oh, this is a good one.
[00:03:19.400 --> 00:03:21.400] Will you take maternity leave this time?
[00:03:21.400 --> 00:03:22.920] I know you didn't really, what's up?
[00:03:24.840 --> 00:03:25.400] No.
[00:03:25.400 --> 00:03:33.000] So I'm not taking, I'm not taking maternity leave in the way that you would like traditionally think of it.
[00:03:33.560 --> 00:03:37.880] And people have thoughts and reactions and bring their own stuff to that.
[00:03:38.200 --> 00:03:49.840] I am someone who I really like my work and I didn't, I had an amazing experience when Sebastian was born during those newborn like weeks and months.
[00:03:50.480 --> 00:03:53.280] Just like I didn't have the identity crisis.
[00:03:53.280 --> 00:03:56.160] I didn't have like I felt really good.
[00:03:56.160 --> 00:05:20.760] I just felt like there was more in my life that I loved and that I wanted to do and I felt stretched but I just yeah I felt like there was more in my life that I loved and that I wanted to do and I still wanted to do work but in saying that I was obviously like not producing content every day and like not on camera and there is planning that needs to happen so that I can take a step back but I still you know intend to be on slack and like checking emails and and approving content and those kind of things but it's just gonna take like organization from all of us to make sure that we've got six weeks of podcasts scheduled and that kind of that kind of content ready to go so that I can be more relaxed but you know my friends in Australia it's really common to take six months to 12 months maternity leave totally off really and that we need yeah that's like that is standard in Australia and then I come to it from the you know someone who's lived in York for 10 years and my friends here are taking like three months it's much different and I think if you've got your own business it is actually impossible to not turn up to work like that's just not an option there wouldn't be a business for me to come back to unfortunately if I stepped away for six months like what would a lot can happen in six months a lot can happen in six months like it's just this business is my first baby, it is my vision I don't I don't want to step away from it.
[00:05:20.760 --> 00:05:23.720] And we're not just, we're not big enough yet for me to be able to do that.
[00:05:23.720 --> 00:05:25.320] There's not enough people on the team.
[00:05:25.800 --> 00:05:46.200] So, no, I won't be taking official maternity leave um but I will be stepping back a little bit for a couple of months and then trying to rope in some kind of patchwork childcare situation, whether that is my mum moving in or roping in my mother-in-law and getting family to help, which we're so, so lucky to be able to have.
[00:05:46.680 --> 00:05:54.920] Because if the option was, you know, putting a three-month-old in daycare or going to, you know, or going back to work, like I would really struggle with that.
[00:05:54.920 --> 00:05:59.080] But because I've got family as an option, I think that just makes things easier.
[00:05:59.080 --> 00:06:00.120] Absolutely.
[00:06:00.120 --> 00:06:05.800] A good follow-up question to that is: what would you do differently this time around in terms of the business?
[00:06:06.840 --> 00:06:09.560] Also, things have changed so much since you had Seb.
[00:06:09.560 --> 00:06:15.720] Last time, oh my God, when I had Sebastian, so we hadn't done a summit yet, had we?
[00:06:15.720 --> 00:06:17.400] No, because he was tiny, tiny.
[00:06:17.720 --> 00:06:18.600] Yes, that's right.
[00:06:18.600 --> 00:06:19.880] Oh, he was.
[00:06:19.880 --> 00:06:21.000] But was he even what?
[00:06:21.480 --> 00:06:22.280] No, he wasn't one.
[00:06:22.760 --> 00:06:24.280] No, no, no, he wasn't one.
[00:06:24.280 --> 00:06:24.920] You're so right.
[00:06:24.920 --> 00:06:25.320] Oh, wow.
[00:06:25.320 --> 00:06:26.840] That's gone so quickly.
[00:06:26.840 --> 00:06:31.480] He, yeah, so I would, what I would do differently.
[00:06:31.800 --> 00:06:37.080] I had an event five weeks after Sebastian was born.
[00:06:37.080 --> 00:06:41.880] We did a full takeover of the Museum of Ice Cream and it was for International Women's Day.
[00:06:41.880 --> 00:06:42.520] And it was great.
[00:06:42.520 --> 00:06:43.400] Like, it was really fun.
[00:06:43.400 --> 00:06:45.480] But it was the first kind of like biggish event that we did.
[00:06:45.480 --> 00:06:50.360] It's nowhere near like what we do for Summit, but it was still, I think we had like 400 people.
[00:06:50.360 --> 00:06:51.720] You know, it was a great event.
[00:06:51.720 --> 00:06:55.720] It was, but it was like, I shouldn't have, I shouldn't have done that.
[00:06:55.720 --> 00:06:58.040] Like with hindsight, I shouldn't have done that.
[00:06:58.040 --> 00:06:59.160] But the opportunity was there.
[00:06:59.160 --> 00:07:00.840] They offered us the space for free.
[00:07:00.840 --> 00:07:03.720] The community wanted to come like you had a great turnout totally.
[00:07:03.720 --> 00:07:06.120] We hit capacity on tickets like immediately.
[00:07:06.120 --> 00:07:07.960] Like it took a couple of days.
[00:07:07.960 --> 00:07:11.320] And I was just excited and I wanted to follow the momentum of the business.
[00:07:11.320 --> 00:07:31.200] And I think in those early days, if you have momentum and if you've tried businesses before that didn't have momentum you know what it feels like and you don't want to let that opportunity pass you by and so i was just so i didn't want to i didn't want to say no to anything at that stage whereas this time knowing what I know, we've brought Summit forward.
[00:07:31.200 --> 00:07:34.160] So Summit is happening on the 5th of October.
[00:07:34.160 --> 00:07:47.280] So, you know, unless like the baby is really, really, really early, which would be like its own huge issue if the baby was this early, I should be able to have a bit of a buffer after we host this really big event where we don't have that in-person stuff.
[00:07:47.280 --> 00:07:54.880] We should have all of the, all of the loose threads tied up and we can have like a little bit of a breather in terms of in-person programming.
[00:07:54.880 --> 00:08:04.400] So that's probably the main thing I would have is like, I don't want to be answerable to like partners and sponsors and those big external calls in like the weeks afterwards.
[00:08:04.400 --> 00:08:07.440] I just want to be like communicating with you guys and doing the fun creative stuff.
[00:08:07.440 --> 00:08:09.040] I think that's super smart.
[00:08:09.040 --> 00:08:09.360] Yeah.
[00:08:09.360 --> 00:08:23.040] Because otherwise like you just end up, you end up needing to kind of cancel things or things are unpredictable and you're disappointed in yourself and it's just easier just to give yourself like the space and the grace, I think.
[00:08:23.040 --> 00:08:24.000] 100%.
[00:08:24.080 --> 00:08:25.760] Yeah, like looking ahead.
[00:08:25.760 --> 00:08:27.680] And now you have the luxury to do so.
[00:08:27.680 --> 00:08:28.080] Yes.
[00:08:29.040 --> 00:08:29.520] Yes.
[00:08:29.520 --> 00:08:36.720] A big question from the community and selfishly the question that I want to know the answer to is do you know the gender?
[00:08:36.720 --> 00:08:38.560] I can't believe I haven't told you this yet.
[00:08:38.560 --> 00:08:38.880] I know.
[00:08:38.880 --> 00:08:40.080] We're live guys.
[00:08:40.560 --> 00:08:41.120] What do you think?
[00:08:41.120 --> 00:08:42.000] What's your guess?
[00:08:42.000 --> 00:08:42.720] Oh, I don't know.
[00:08:42.720 --> 00:08:44.000] I'm so bad at this.
[00:08:44.000 --> 00:08:45.760] We should have done our own gender reveal.
[00:08:45.760 --> 00:08:46.560] Oh, we should have.
[00:08:46.800 --> 00:08:48.560] I did one with my friends as well.
[00:08:48.560 --> 00:08:49.280] Oh, you did.
[00:08:49.280 --> 00:08:52.480] They just, oh, I don't know drawers.
[00:08:54.080 --> 00:08:55.360] Is it a girl?
[00:08:55.360 --> 00:08:55.760] Yeah.
[00:08:58.320 --> 00:10:36.320] I know i know i know that's so exciting oh my gosh that's amazing so how was your gender reveal i didn't do a full i didn't do a full gender reveal i'll show you the video afterwards it's really cute maybe maybe i'll post it if steve lets me as well um we just like we just found out in the blood test that we got from the doctor so we i just filmed us like looking you know reading the results and i thought the baby was a girl like i just had you know and then i had my like 12-week scan and the doctor was like oh i think i can see something and if they can see something it's a boy right and so then i just and i felt a little bit disappointed which is such a stupid reaction but like that is my that was the honest reaction that's valid and it is genuinely like you would never be disappointed when the baby actually comes but yeah that was my reaction so then i tried to like talk myself out of it and i was like oh no no no it's a boy it's a boy but yeah girl a girl's girl yeah so fun oh no what a beautiful girl that will be i also want to know and the community wants to know do you have a name yeah i'm not telling you though i'm not telling you that is the one thing that is my secret that's fair i would probably do the same but i've only got one girl's name i've always had a good like that's what sebastian was going to be if he was a girl like if there's one name oh wow i know you won't guess it i'm not guessing no way all right i won't even try are you nervous about building the business with two and also having a newborn again like what your feelings going yes i definitely i think i'm still in a bit of denial about it to be honest, it's actually like some, it's somewhat easier going in with the first because you don't really know what you're in for.
[00:10:36.320 --> 00:10:49.840] And I found the baby month so much easier than, like, you know, now we're at least in a in a rhythm, we've got proper child care, like he's in, he's got daycare, and so you can carve out those dedicated work hours.
[00:10:49.840 --> 00:10:56.480] But with a baby, you have the flexibility because they sleep all the time, and like they don't really need you to be interacting with them.
[00:10:56.480 --> 00:11:03.200] So I could get so much more done without feeling like I was away from the baby.
[00:11:03.200 --> 00:11:07.520] Whereas now I'm kind of, I know what I'm in for.
[00:11:07.520 --> 00:11:13.520] Like, I know that the baby is going to become the toddler that's going to become this thing that like requires all of you know all of your attention.
[00:11:13.520 --> 00:11:17.760] And so I am nervous when I let myself think about it.
[00:11:17.760 --> 00:11:19.280] But I do think it is really helpful.
[00:11:19.280 --> 00:11:20.960] I look at examples of other people who have done it.
[00:11:20.960 --> 00:11:26.560] And I actually do this with any time I want to try something new that I find a little bit daunting.
[00:11:26.560 --> 00:11:28.240] I'm like, okay, who else has done it?
[00:11:28.240 --> 00:11:30.080] That is someone that I can resonate with.
[00:11:30.080 --> 00:11:32.160] And I look at Allison from Poppy.
[00:11:32.160 --> 00:11:33.280] She had four.
[00:11:33.440 --> 00:11:36.160] I think she had four while building that business.
[00:11:36.160 --> 00:11:38.800] And like, I'm not building a billion-dollar company.
[00:11:38.800 --> 00:11:39.200] Maybe.
[00:11:39.200 --> 00:11:39.680] I don't think so.
[00:11:40.640 --> 00:11:41.280] You never know.
[00:11:41.280 --> 00:11:43.440] But like, she can do that.
[00:11:43.760 --> 00:11:46.080] Then that just makes it feel a bit more doable.
[00:11:46.080 --> 00:11:48.720] Barbara from Ceremonia, she has four.
[00:11:49.200 --> 00:11:55.120] And her first pregnancy, she raised money for the company and launched during that pregnancy.
[00:11:55.120 --> 00:11:57.680] She's the twins, like, you know, she did it.
[00:11:57.680 --> 00:11:58.880] Cindy Romero, she has two.
[00:11:59.920 --> 00:12:02.640] I mean, we say it all the time, but it's truly.
[00:12:03.280 --> 00:12:10.080] Also, you also need to have very honest conversations with these women and other women about what their care setup is.
[00:12:10.080 --> 00:12:10.400] That's true.
[00:12:10.480 --> 00:12:12.800] And like, Barbara is like, she does post about that a lot.
[00:12:12.800 --> 00:12:15.760] I don't know what Allison's situation is, but I am going to ask her.
[00:12:16.160 --> 00:12:22.640] You need to know what their care setup is because it can be, it can look very much like, oh, they're doing it, they're doing everything and whatever.
[00:12:22.640 --> 00:12:26.720] But it's like, how much time are they getting with their children?
[00:12:26.720 --> 00:12:28.800] Are they happy with that balance?
[00:12:28.800 --> 00:12:30.760] Do they need a nanny?
[00:12:30.760 --> 00:12:32.360] Do they have someone that lives in?
[00:12:32.360 --> 00:12:33.640] Do they have daycare?
[00:12:33.640 --> 00:12:38.680] Do they have a mum or a dad that comes in, like a grandparent that can support?
[00:12:38.680 --> 00:12:39.640] What does it look like?
[00:12:39.640 --> 00:12:41.480] And is that something that I want to?
[00:12:41.480 --> 00:12:41.800] Yeah.
[00:12:41.800 --> 00:12:49.320] You know, like I think if I see examples of people who have care setups that don't feel right to me, then like that's not expansive.
[00:12:49.320 --> 00:12:52.120] You need to find people who are doing it in a way that like feels comfortable for you.
[00:12:52.120 --> 00:12:55.320] Yeah, I'm also curious about people's commutes.
[00:12:55.320 --> 00:12:56.840] You know, are they going into an office?
[00:12:57.080 --> 00:12:58.520] Are they leading team meetings?
[00:12:58.520 --> 00:13:00.360] Are they entirely remote?
[00:13:00.360 --> 00:13:04.920] It just really varies and also depends on the city and where you are in the world.
[00:13:04.920 --> 00:13:05.400] Yeah.
[00:13:05.400 --> 00:13:07.480] So it's like another factor that just adds a layer.
[00:13:07.800 --> 00:13:08.200] Totally.
[00:13:08.520 --> 00:13:13.960] So I'm nervous, but I'm also like a bit delusional and enjoying looking at other people who've done it, thinking it'll be fine.
[00:13:13.960 --> 00:13:14.440] It'll be fine.
[00:13:14.520 --> 00:13:16.520] It's a good way to go, in my opinion.
[00:13:16.520 --> 00:13:18.520] I have all the faith in the world that'll be excellent.
[00:13:18.520 --> 00:13:20.520] And you've built, we've grown so much.
[00:13:20.520 --> 00:13:20.760] Yeah.
[00:13:20.920 --> 00:13:21.880] That was Warren.
[00:13:21.880 --> 00:13:22.200] Yeah.
[00:13:22.200 --> 00:13:24.360] So it's pretty limitless.
[00:13:24.360 --> 00:13:26.680] Like it's going to be great.
[00:13:26.680 --> 00:13:30.200] And we only really got child care, proper child care for Sebastian after he was one.
[00:13:30.200 --> 00:13:33.800] Like that first year, like he just came along with us.
[00:13:34.040 --> 00:13:35.880] You know, true, he was at everything.
[00:13:35.880 --> 00:13:37.000] He just came along.
[00:13:37.000 --> 00:13:38.120] But he's very well behaved.
[00:13:38.120 --> 00:13:39.160] So he's not anymore.
[00:13:39.160 --> 00:13:39.560] He won't.
[00:13:39.560 --> 00:13:39.800] Oh, no.
[00:13:39.960 --> 00:13:40.440] Yeah, yeah.
[00:13:41.080 --> 00:13:44.440] Well, they start walking and talking, and then you're like, oh.
[00:13:45.320 --> 00:13:53.400] And you also said that this trip, we're here in New York right now, and Jasmine's have had a whirlwind of a trip the past two days traveling around.
[00:13:53.400 --> 00:13:57.400] And you said it's the first time you've really felt like so sick leaving him behind.
[00:13:57.880 --> 00:14:01.000] Like when he was younger, I feel like it was a little bit of a different.
[00:14:01.400 --> 00:14:06.280] I also didn't spend, like, I haven't spent this long away from him before.
[00:14:06.320 --> 00:14:12.360] Um, so you know, I've talked about this on Instagram a little bit, but if, you know, obviously, not every friend who listens to the podcast follows me there.
[00:14:12.360 --> 00:14:16.720] But we have, um, we're trying to like figure out what home is going to be.
[00:14:16.720 --> 00:14:18.880] And so, right now, we've got this Airbnb in Sydney.
[00:14:14.840 --> 00:14:21.600] We still have our apartment in New York, which is on and off, rented out.
[00:14:21.920 --> 00:14:23.920] And I am flying to New York all the time.
[00:14:23.920 --> 00:14:25.920] Long trips, short trips.
[00:14:25.920 --> 00:14:33.120] But this one is like nearly two weeks, and that is two weeks without Sebastian.
[00:14:33.120 --> 00:14:35.520] And I've never spent that long away.
[00:14:35.520 --> 00:14:39.600] And like, that's something that I really need to think about when we have another baby as well.
[00:14:39.600 --> 00:14:41.600] Because hopefully, I'll be breastfeeding.
[00:14:41.600 --> 00:14:43.040] There's all of that to consider.
[00:14:43.040 --> 00:14:43.360] Yeah.
[00:14:43.360 --> 00:14:44.800] So I'm going to have to bring the baby with me.
[00:14:44.800 --> 00:14:48.240] That means I'm going to have to bring someone with me to help look after the baby while I'm working.
[00:14:48.240 --> 00:14:50.560] Like, it adds a layer to vacation.
[00:14:50.560 --> 00:14:51.280] Yeah, come on in.
[00:14:51.680 --> 00:14:52.240] You baby.
[00:14:52.320 --> 00:14:52.960] You used to babysit.
[00:14:54.240 --> 00:14:55.760] Yeah, I used to babysit all the time.
[00:14:55.760 --> 00:14:56.240] How young?
[00:14:57.280 --> 00:14:58.960] Little, little, like babies.
[00:14:58.960 --> 00:15:00.640] Okay, but between us, we got it.
[00:15:00.640 --> 00:15:01.520] Yeah, don't worry.
[00:15:01.520 --> 00:15:02.000] Just add it.
[00:15:02.480 --> 00:15:05.040] Just bring her my job description.
[00:15:05.440 --> 00:15:07.040] You do literally everything else.
[00:15:07.040 --> 00:15:08.880] I'm just going to rope in some childcare as well.
[00:15:08.880 --> 00:15:09.680] It's no problem.
[00:15:09.680 --> 00:15:11.760] But it does, yeah, that adds a layer of complication.
[00:15:11.760 --> 00:15:12.800] What was the question?
[00:15:12.800 --> 00:15:16.720] I was just saying that this time around, you felt sad leaving him behind.
[00:15:16.720 --> 00:15:17.280] Yes, yes.
[00:15:17.440 --> 00:15:20.560] Like once they get to that age, he knows as well.
[00:15:20.560 --> 00:15:21.520] Yeah, that's so true.
[00:15:21.520 --> 00:15:22.960] Yeah, like he really knows.
[00:15:22.960 --> 00:15:24.400] Yeah, well, you're doing a great job.
[00:15:24.400 --> 00:15:25.040] Thank you.
[00:15:25.040 --> 00:15:25.680] Any more questions?
[00:15:25.680 --> 00:15:26.240] Are we done?
[00:15:26.240 --> 00:15:26.800] That's it.
[00:15:26.800 --> 00:15:27.920] Okay, amazing.
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