This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

#645 - Chris Robinson

March 11, 2026

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  • Chris Robinson subscribes to the philosophy of French artist Jean Cocteau, who stated, "Living is a horizontal fall." 
  • The initial line of a song is crucial for Chris Robinson as poetry and writing were his first artistic interests before music. 
  • Nostalgia for childhood music is linked to the intense, formative emotional experiences of adolescence when one's sense of self is first solidifying. 
  • Chris Robinson shared cautionary tales about extreme drug use, including making potent brownies with shake weed and a severe reaction to chewing tobacco. 
  • Robinson views Bob Weir as a truly unique musician whose unconventional style contributed significantly to the Grateful Dead's special sound. 
  • The Black Crowes recorded their new album, *A Pound of Feathers*, spontaneously without pre-written songs to maintain authenticity and creative energy. 

Segments

Theo’s Tour Dates and Guest Intro
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  • Key Takeaway: Theo Von is performing shows in Jacksonville, Florida on March 13th and 14th while preparing for his Netflix special.
  • Summary: Theo Von announced upcoming tour dates in Jacksonville, Florida, scheduled for March 13th and 14th. He is currently practicing and preparing for his upcoming Netflix special. The guest for Episode #645 of This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von is Chris Robinson, co-founder of The Black Crowes, promoting their new album ‘A Pound of Feathers’ releasing March 13th.
Aging and Philosophy
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  • Key Takeaway: Chris Robinson embraces aging, citing Jean Cocteau’s definition of life as a “horizontal fall.”
  • Summary: Chris Robinson expressed pride in surviving 59 winters, viewing decrepitude as somewhat artsy or Tim Burton-esque. He quoted Jean Cocteau, stating that living is a “horizontal fall,” a philosophy he adopted around age 35. This quote provided a perfect philosophical summary for him.
Creativity and Dyslexia
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  • Key Takeaway: Having varied interests and processing information differently due to dyslexia fuels Chris Robinson’s constant state of inspiration.
  • Summary: Chris Robinson finds it sad when individuals stop being inspired by the world’s constant flow of information. He noted that being dyslexic causes him to process information differently, which he believes contributed to his lifelong path in a rock band.
Importance of First Song Lines
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  • Key Takeaway: The first line of a song is paramount because it must immediately capture the necessary imagination or feeling to hook the listener.
  • Summary: Chris Robinson emphasized the importance of the first line in songwriting, as poetry and writing were his initial creative pursuits. He seeks an immediate capture of imagination or feeling within the first few words to engage the audience upfront. He cited the opening line of Nine Inch Nails’ “Hurt” (“I hurt myself today”) as an example of an impactful start.
Early Music Discovery in Atlanta
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  • Key Takeaway: The Black Crowes’ early musical influences stemmed from seeking out underground hardcore bands in Atlanta, avoiding mainstream MTV culture.
  • Summary: Chris Robinson’s interest in music began with poetry, with music coming later after seeing local hardcore bands in Atlanta during early 80s punk rock matinees. This led to discovering music that required digging and wasn’t readily available on TV or radio. He believes meeting like-minded people still happens on a human wavelength, independent of technology.
Nostalgia vs. Present Moment Music
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  • Key Takeaway: Music experienced during adolescence is imprinted deeply because it coincides with the first time an individual feels fully alive in a new, personal way.
  • Summary: Theo Von questioned if his strong nostalgia for childhood music stunts his adult appreciation, to which Chris Robinson suggested it’s not about the music being the ‘best,’ but that it imprints on a fresh adolescent consciousness. Robinson stated he is not nostalgic, preferring music to make the current room feel alive, regardless of the era. He mentioned admiring the guitar sound of Let’s Active rather than being transported back to his childhood home.
Historical Context and Morality
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  • Key Takeaway: Human history, despite technological changes, maintains a constant struggle between morality and unhinged power dynamics, requiring perseverance.
  • Summary: The conversation touched on the idea that the most powerful people throughout history have often been the most unhinged, a dynamic that persists today. Chris Robinson believes a fundamental moral compass always shows right from wrong, even if achieving that right outcome involves constant struggle. He referenced the Clint Eastwood film The Outlaw Josey Wales and the line, “We must endeavor to persevere.”
Remakes and Creative Desire
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  • Key Takeaway: Chris Robinson questions the desire of successful artists to remake their own past successful works instead of focusing on the present.
  • Summary: The discussion touched on the trend of remaking classic films like West Side Story, which Robinson finds confusing. He wondered if he would ever feel the urge to remake his own successful music from a past era. Robinson finds fulfillment in staying in the moment, though he acknowledges the difficulty of maintaining that focus due to life responsibilities.
Early Influences and Childhood Trauma
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  • Key Takeaway: Early exposure to intense media like Lord of the Flies and the general environment of unsupervised youth shaped formative artistic and behavioral tendencies.
  • Summary: Chris Robinson recalled watching Lord of the Flies as a child, which Theo Von felt fit his own early influences. The conversation linked crime and art, suggesting that ‘bad kid’ energy often fuels rock and roll. Theo Von recounted seeing a flasher in an Atlanta liquor store around age 12, an event that contributed to his complex relationship with public exposure.
The Black Crowes’ Early Days and Name
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  • Key Takeaway: The Black Crowes’ name originated from a book, Mr. Crow’s Garden, and the band’s initial success was fueled by playing their material hard before small crowds.
  • Summary: Chris Robinson shared that his brother Rich’s early dancing to Black Crowes music was a significant early musical memory. The band was initially called Mr. Crow’s Garden, inspired by a book, before settling on The Black Crowes aesthetic. He recounted playing a show in Rome, Georgia, to only a few people eating Subway sandwiches while they performed their new material.
Brotherly Dynamics and Ego
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  • Key Takeaway: Chris Robinson deeply admires his brother Rich’s unique talent and sweetness, recognizing his uniqueness is often obscured by personal ego and resentment.
  • Summary: Chris Robinson stated he admires his brother Rich’s amazing heart and sweetness, acknowledging that his own ego and resentment previously tainted his perspective of Rich’s talent. The brothers went seven years without speaking following the last Black Crowes activity before their reconciliation. Robinson admitted to being ugly and mean during that period and should have reached out sooner.
Drug Use and Creativity
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  • Key Takeaway: Chris Robinson never used drugs specifically to write music, though psychedelics are present in his work, and he stopped hard drug use due to the demands of touring later in life.
  • Summary: Robinson clarified that while psychedelics are part of his writing, he never took drugs solely for the purpose of writing songs. He admitted to being a ‘coke person’ in the 90s but found speed chemistry incompatible with his system. Now nearly 60, he is in recovery, recognizing that the physical demands of high-level singing make drug use unsustainable.
Extreme Drug Anecdotes
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  • Key Takeaway: Chris Robinson’s worst high involved consuming an entire batch of microwave brownie mix laced with two bags of shake weed, administered by his former bandmate, Eddie Harsh.
  • Summary: Robinson recounted a nightmarish experience after consuming potent brownies made by his former keyboardist, Eddie Harsh, who was described as his ‘drug professor.’ The resulting high was so intense that Robinson felt only death could save him. He also detailed a separate, horrible reaction to chewing tobacco as a child, which led to vomiting in his parents’ bushes.
Cocaine and Bird Bath Incident
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  • Key Takeaway: While attempting to use a substance believed to be cocaine as a performance enhancer while working as a busboy, Robinson ended up drinking from a bird bath near LSU’s Tigerland area.
  • Summary: Robinson described taking a substance he thought was cocaine to enhance his busboy performance, leading to an anxious, squirreled-out state while running. Fleeing onlookers near LSU, he jumped a fence and drank water from a bird bath, leading to a confrontation with the homeowners. He humorously referred to the act as having a ‘Hurricane Katrina martini.’
Prius Stigma and Band Name Idea
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  • Key Takeaway: Robinson once felt shame driving his Prius in rural Louisiana, fearing locals would react negatively to the hybrid vehicle.
  • Summary: While visiting Louisiana with his then-girlfriend, Robinson noted the prevalence of trucks and felt his Prius would be judged negatively by the locals. He joked that he bought the car to experience what erectile dysfunction felt like, leading to the suggestion that ‘Erectile Dysfunction’ would be a good band name.
Grateful Dead Musicianship
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  • Key Takeaway: Bob Weir’s greatest musical gift is his truly unique, outside-the-box musicianship, setting him apart from others in the Grateful Dead.
  • Summary: Robinson confirmed his connection to the Grateful Dead scene and praised Bob Weir for his singular approach to music. He noted that the Grateful Dead started as ‘scary, like art rock, heavy acid’ before becoming widely popular. Robinson contrasted the intense early acid culture with modern ‘micro-dosing.’
Impact of Artist Deaths
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  • Key Takeaway: The deaths of personal musician friends, like Todd Schneider, affected Robinson more deeply than the passing of major figures like Prince or David Bowie.
  • Summary: Robinson grew up obsessed with funk artists like Prince, George Clinton, and Rick James, recounting a severe punishment from his father that caused him to miss a Rick James concert. He noted that Prince’s death seemed less shocking to his friends than David Bowie’s, despite his deep appreciation for Prince’s funk era.
Reflections on Past Choices and Steven Tyler’s Advice
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  • Key Takeaway: Robinson refuses to go back and redo parts of his musical life, citing Steven Tyler’s advice to save money after the first Black Crowes record, which he ignored at age 24.
  • Summary: Robinson stated he is not a ‘go-back guy’ and would not change past events, believing his younger self wouldn’t have heeded advice anyway. He shared that Steven Tyler once told him to save his money after their first successful record, but the 24-year-old Robinson was focused on playing safe.
Extravagances and Travel Priorities
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  • Key Takeaway: Robinson’s primary expenditures are on books and records, which he has collected since age 12, contrasting with a focus on travel and cuisine.
  • Summary: Robinson mentioned receiving a human skull through Grateful Dead connections but stated his main extravagances are clothes and travel, with downtime centered around exploring global cuisines. He emphasized that he is not a car or rare guitar collector, preferring to spend money on books and records.
Touring Challenges and Audience Connection
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  • Key Takeaway: Robinson finds that modern audiences holding up phones creates a wall that hinders the necessary reciprocal energy flow between the performer and the crowd.
  • Summary: The Black Crowes are touring with Whiskey Myers, blending rock and country styles. Robinson still loves touring but notes that audience members filming with phones can create a barrier to the essential energy exchange he needs on stage. He emphasized that the best shows are when that flow is uninterrupted, making the performance feel beautiful and effortless.