The Ramsey Show

We Make $200K and We’re Still Broke

February 26, 2026

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  • High income alone does not prevent significant debt accumulation, as demonstrated by the couple making \$200K who are overwhelmed by taxes and consumer debt. 
  • Parents should be extremely cautious about taking on Parent-Plus student loans, as draining retirement savings at age 68 to pay them off can leave the parent with no financial security for retirement. 
  • For self-employed individuals, failing to pay quarterly estimated taxes is a critical financial mistake that must be corrected immediately, even if it means using business emergency funds. 
  • Approaching pre-marital financial discussions with a focus on shared future goals, rather than just past mistakes, frames the conversation as exciting rather than confrontational. 
  • Money fights are a leading cause of divorce, making open and honest financial alignment a crucial and urgent conversation before marriage. 
  • For those in debt (Baby Step 2), essential defensive expenses like term life insurance and long-term disability insurance should be prioritized before aggressively attacking non-essential savings goals like a distant wedding fund. 
  • Consistent, long-term investing, even with modest monthly contributions like \$735, can yield millions through compound growth over 40 years, demonstrating the power of starting early. 
  • When facing debt decisions (credit cards vs. car loan), the Debt Snowball method dictates paying off all smaller debts first (like the \$4,500 credit card debt) before aggressively attacking the next largest debt (the \$14,000 truck loan). 
  • For those with high income (\$270,000 gross) but who are unsure where to direct funds, the priority should be eliminating all consumer debt, maximizing tax-advantaged retirement accounts (like 401k/Roth IRA) to meet the 15% investment goal, and avoiding speculative platforms like Robinhood. 

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Pre-Marital Financial Discussion
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(00:58:39)
  • Key Takeaway: Approach pre-marital money talks with shared goals, not control.
  • Summary: The hosts advise caller James on how to initiate a conversation about finances with his fiancée, suggesting he frame it around the positive goal of entering marriage debt-free rather than sounding controlling.
Framing Debt-Free Marriage Goals
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(00:59:16)
  • Key Takeaway: Turn financial discussions into exciting future dreams.
  • Summary: The advice shifts to framing debt payoff as an exciting opportunity to have options (like a paid-for wedding or honeymoon) rather than a negative chore.
Learning Partner’s Money History
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(01:00:30)
  • Key Takeaway: Money conversations reveal deep personality traits and fears.
  • Summary: The hosts explain that discussing money allows you to learn about a partner’s upbringing, fears, and tendencies around scarcity or spending.
Gifts for Caller James
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(01:01:06)
  • Key Takeaway: Ramsey Show resources are offered to help couples align.
  • Summary: The hosts offer James copies of ‘Know Yourself, Know Your Money’ and ‘Total Money Makeover’ to help him and his fiancée align their financial views.
Money Fights and Divorce Risk
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(01:01:43)
  • Key Takeaway: Money problems are a top cause of divorce; address them urgently.
  • Summary: The hosts emphasize the statistical reality that money fights lead to divorce, making this conversation urgent and necessary for a healthy relationship.
Pre-Marital Finance Advice for AJ
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(01:09:31)
  • Key Takeaway: Keep finances separate until after the wedding.
  • Summary: AJ is advised against combining finances with his fiancée before the July wedding; they should maintain separate finances until married, then attack her remaining debt together.
Post-Marriage Financial Unity
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(01:13:03)
  • Key Takeaway: Combine all marital assets into one joint checking account.
  • Summary: The key to a great marriage regarding money is combining assets into one joint checking account and budgeting together.
Saving for Future Wedding Costs
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(01:05:26)
  • Key Takeaway: Prioritize paying off the house over saving for a distant wedding.
  • Summary: Caller Brooklyn is advised to focus on paying off her house first, as saving for a wedding 20+ years away is too far off to predict costs.
Investing for Long-Term Goals
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(01:07:15)
  • Key Takeaway: Small, consistent investing yields large future results.
  • Summary: The host calculates that investing just $100 a month for 20 years could yield $75,000 to $86,000 for the daughter’s future needs.
Advice for Recently Widowed Caller
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(01:16:44)
  • Key Takeaway: Take time to make major financial decisions after a spouse’s death.
  • Summary: Elaine, recently widowed with significant assets, is advised to wait a year before making major moves and to fully understand her financial planner’s recommendations.
Social Security Claiming Strategy
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(01:19:37)
  • Key Takeaway: If you don’t need it, wait until full retirement age (67) for maximum benefit.
  • Summary: Elaine is advised to wait until age 67 to claim Social Security benefits since she is healthy and has substantial personal savings.
Rules for Shared Property Ownership
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(01:24:45)
  • Key Takeaway: Shared ownership requires clear documentation and shared responsibility.
  • Summary: Lucy’s family needs to create a document outlining rules for the inherited cabin, as shared ownership means shared financial responsibility, regardless of parental wishes.
Urgency to Move from Unzoned Living
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(01:29:44)
  • Key Takeaway: Legal risks outweigh the temporary financial benefit of living in an unzoned space.
  • Summary: Hannah is urged to move out of the unzoned gym basement soon, even if it slows debt payoff, to avoid forced eviction or fines.
Handling Inheritance at 21
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(01:33:20)
  • Key Takeaway: Treat a large inheritance as future security, not current spending money.
  • Summary: Stephen is told to put his $50,000 inheritance into a high-yield savings account and focus on building a life on his post-graduation salary first.
Insurance as a Baby Step Prerequisite
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(01:38:10)
  • Key Takeaway: Insurance and wills are defensive measures that must be in place before aggressive debt payoff.
  • Summary: Scott learns that essential insurances (like long-term disability) and a will are prerequisites to the Baby Steps because they protect wealth from derailment.
Investing vs. Saving for Young Adults
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(01:50:27)
  • Key Takeaway: Investing in the market offers significantly higher long-term returns than CDs.
  • Summary: Sarah is shown the difference between the low returns of a CD and the potential for compound growth in the stock market via her 401(k).
The Power of Compound Growth
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(01:55:28)
  • Key Takeaway: Starting early allows compound growth to generate millions over decades.
  • Summary: The host calculates that if Sarah invests $735 monthly until age 63, $4.3 million of the projected $4.6 million total will come from compound growth alone.
Investment Power of Compound Growth
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(01:55:18)
  • Key Takeaway: Compound growth can generate millions from relatively small contributions over 40 years.
  • Summary: The host calculates that investing $735 monthly over 40 years at 10% return yields $4.6 million, with $4.3 million being pure compound growth.
Finding Investment Professionals
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(01:56:02)
  • Key Takeaway: Listeners should interview vetted SmartVestor Pros for investment guidance.
  • Summary: Call to action to find a SmartVestor Pro and use the investment calculator linked in the show notes.
Celebrating Debt-Free Progress
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(01:56:43)
  • Key Takeaway: Listeners working the Baby Steps should celebrate their progress, especially those past Baby Step 4.
  • Summary: Encouragement for listeners following the plan, followed by promotion for the Live Like No One Else cruise.
Scripture and Investment Math
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(01:57:37)
  • Key Takeaway: Hard work yields rewards, contrasting with a humorous, flawed investment quote.
  • Summary: Reading of Proverbs (28:19) and a lighthearted discussion about a Justin Timberlake quote regarding investment returns.
Tax Return Allocation Strategy
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(01:58:28)
  • Key Takeaway: Prioritize paying off all credit card debt before aggressively attacking the truck loan.
  • Summary: Caller Rachel asks how to allocate $8,000 cash between credit card debt ($4,500) and potential truck payoff. The host advises clearing credit cards first, then applying the rest to the truck loan.
Debt-Free Acceleration Plan
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(02:02:14)
  • Key Takeaway: With no car payment needed after selling one vehicle, the remaining truck debt can be cleared quickly.
  • Summary: The host confirms that since the caller has another car, they can use the cash for credit cards and then aggressively pay off the remaining $10k on the truck loan in about five months.
Realizing Debt Freedom Potential
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(02:02:56)
  • Key Takeaway: The hardest step is realizing debt freedom is achievable quickly by changing mindset.
  • Summary: The caller expresses shock at how fast they can become debt-free by following the Total Money Makeover principles.
Investing vs. Hoarding Cash
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(02:03:28)
  • Key Takeaway: With a $270K income, the couple must move beyond saving and start investing 15% of gross income.
  • Summary: Caller Doug is saving too much cash. The host advises paying off the small truck payment and then focusing on investing 15% of their $270K income into tax-advantaged retirement accounts.
Prioritizing Tax-Advantaged Investing
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(02:05:38)
  • Key Takeaway: Employer retirement plans (401k/Roth) must be funded before using taxable brokerage accounts like Robinhood.
  • Summary: The host criticizes the use of Robinhood for individual stocks and directs Doug to prioritize his 401k and Roth options to hit the 15% investment goal.